Get under your car?

Poll: Get under your car?

Total Members Polled: 125

Yes: 36%
No: 64%
Author
Discussion

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

220 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Possibly silly question, but do you all put the axle stands given the jack point will be in use by the trolley jack? Are the axles strong enough?

What about if lifting the front of a RWD car or back of a FWD car? (Or the the answer to that 'buy a 4WD?' silly)

clunkbox

237 posts

142 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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It's stupid, but I've done it before. Only when the wheels are on or under the sills, and preferably with my head out in the open. To be honest I don't have massive faith in axle stands either - unless a wheel or something is under the sill I'm not that happy being underneath. Never with a scissor jack.

Voted yes as I'm probally stupid enough to do it again in certain circumstances,I use ramps or axle stands if I plan on getting underneath.

real4star

7,032 posts

139 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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MarkRSi said:
Possibly silly question, but do you all put the axle stands given the jack point will be in use by the trolley jack? Are the axles strong enough?

What about if lifting the front of a RWD car or back of a FWD car? (Or the the answer to that 'buy a 4WD?' silly)
I usually put Jack on the jacking point and axle stands under the supension at the point where the suspension is mounted to the car (as these points are designed to take the weight of the car anyway)

Also chock the wheels that are on the ground and if jacking the rear of a FWD off the floor chock the front wheels and leave it in gear.

Neal

Edited by real4star on Wednesday 14th November 16:20

real4star

7,032 posts

139 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I went to an independant garage to get two new tyres on my old Fiesta

The guy parked my car facing up a slope, stuck one trolley jack under the axle beam and jacked the rear of the car up about a foot then proceeded to remove both rear wheels... leaving my only form of transport balanced on a single jack with no handbrake to hold it on a slope. yikes

I never used that garage after that redcard

Neal

Edited by real4star on Wednesday 14th November 16:28

Marf

22,907 posts

243 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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thinfourth2 said:
Other options include

Using a pit
A 2 or 4 post lift
a scissor lift
or

roll the car onto its side and get to work smile
Meanwhile for the non professional mechanics lacking these items, a jack and axle stands will be the weapons of choice.

kambites

67,689 posts

223 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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A scissor lift is my plan for when the garage is finished. smile

Perd Hapley

1,750 posts

175 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I find sometimes when working under the car my eyes focus on whatever chunk of metal is directly above my head, and I think about how horrific it would be to be crushed by it. Also how unpleasant it would be for whoever had to find me. That is enough to ensure I never go under the car without putting it on stands and checking it's stable.

I have had a trolley jack fail too. It didn't just drop, it slowly and silently let the car down.

Coldfuse

518 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I use a 3 ton Jack and don't own any stands, but i don't go under the car unless its on all 4 wheels.

Noesph

1,157 posts

151 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I can work on a 106 with its wheels still on the ground, a little invention called a kerb and a hill.

Dr Doofenshmirtz

15,323 posts

202 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Jacks both sides + Axle stands + Wheels placed under the sill =
or lorry grade ramps.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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doogz said:
If the wheels are coming off, they'll get slid under the sills out the way too.
^^^ This. Best extra assurance by far.

Chris944_S2

1,921 posts

225 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Marf said:
thinfourth2 said:
Other options include

Using a pit
A 2 or 4 post lift
a scissor lift
or

roll the car onto its side and get to work smile
Meanwhile for the non professional mechanics lacking these items, a jack and axle stands will be the weapons of choice.
My local car wash has a booth with a scisor lift for washing underneath, its handy for other things too. However I doubt in the UK the health and safety brigade would allow members of the public unsupervised access to one.

Ki3r

7,843 posts

161 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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When I did my oil change I used a pair of axle stands, cost me £30 I think.

I used the scissor jack supplied to jack it up and put the axle stands under.

Next time ill be getting a trolley jack.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Ki3r said:
Next time ill be getting a trolley jack.
One thing to watch out for with trolley jack is the massive point load the steel front wheels of the jack put on your driveway or garage floor. It's not uncommon for the jack to punch it's way down through tarmac or even concrete. Use a piece of 15mm plywood or MDF as a "spreader" to avoid unfortunate surprises....

Palms

254 posts

153 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Im a dick head sometimes so i voted yes, i have done in the past and i probably will do it again although i will do my best to be more carefull in future

Rotary Madness

2,285 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Its usually the trolly jack + 1/2 axle stands + the wheel(s) laid underneath the car also. Also chock the wheels that are still on the ground, so its pretty damn stable biggrin

SMGB

790 posts

141 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Someone I worked with was killed when an XJ6 he was working on fell on him, yeah that would do it, right. He had it jacked but not chocked and no stands. We were similar ages and once we had girlfriends who were sisters. He was a bit of a nutcase always buying and selling fun cars and a great laugh. It hit home, you remember something like that. I always chock 2 wheels, use axle stands and I also have chunky piece of timber I can put somewhere where it will leave me wriggle room. I wont work on a car on axle stands both ends either. You cant chock it and if it moves a certain distance its going to keep on going. I am aware a lot of people do this, well their choice. edit Re trolley jacks comment above, I read about someone being killed when the jack punched through the tarmac on a warm day when it was a bit soft.

Edited by SMGB on Wednesday 14th November 17:40

OldSkoolRS

6,767 posts

181 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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As I seem to have had a bad run of DIY based injuries (including one earlier this year with an angle grinder with a wire brush attachment eek) I'm particularly careful about getting under my car. I use axles stands, put the removed wheel under the car and leave the trolley jack under the jacking point too.

These days the hardest part is me getting back up afterwards. rolleyes

Riley Blue

21,078 posts

228 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Ozzie Osmond said:
One thing to watch out for with trolley jack is the massive point load the steel front wheels of the jack put on your driveway or garage floor. It's not uncommon for the jack to punch it's way down through tarmac or even concrete. Use a piece of 15mm plywood or MDF as a "spreader" to avoid unfortunate surprises....
Good advice (says he after forgetting to do it...)

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

206 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Marf said:
thinfourth2 said:
Other options include

Using a pit
A 2 or 4 post lift
a scissor lift
or

roll the car onto its side and get to work smile
Meanwhile for the non professional mechanics lacking these items, a jack and axle stands will be the weapons of choice.
You can get a 2 post lift for less then a set of HUGE alloy wheels

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUPERB-BRAND-NEW-RAMP-2-...