Argument with Policeman at Crossroads
Discussion
Highway code always used to insist on passing offside-to-offside and everyone ignored it so now it allows either o-to-o or nearside-to-nearside.
However, Rule 105 says: You MUST obey signals given by police officers, traffic officers, traffic wardens (download ‘Signals by authorised persons’ (PDF, 123KB)) and signs used by school crossing patrols.
And that's backed by laws RTRA sect 28, RTA 1988 sect 35, TMA 2004 sect 6, & FTWO art 3 so there is no point arguing with him if he wants o-to-o passing.
However, Rule 105 says: You MUST obey signals given by police officers, traffic officers, traffic wardens (download ‘Signals by authorised persons’ (PDF, 123KB)) and signs used by school crossing patrols.
And that's backed by laws RTRA sect 28, RTA 1988 sect 35, TMA 2004 sect 6, & FTWO art 3 so there is no point arguing with him if he wants o-to-o passing.
Marti99 said:
Yellow seems crazy to me, what if there was a line if cars waiting to turn? Or there is just one, you go behind to wait to cross, another car joins the queue etc. I know what the Highway Code says, it just seems silly and nobody does it anyway for that very reason.
The problem is that most people are thick and selfish. They will drive their car up the bumper of the car in front creating a snake of cars with no gaps for other traffic to drive through, eg blocking the exit of a junction so bringing both traffic directions to a standstill.How many times have you seen the it painted on the road in the red way?
I can't recall ever seeing it painted out in the yellow way.
A side note: Does anyone find it annoying when you don't know which junctions the opposite lights also go green? As they aren't marked, so sometimes you hesitate not knowing if the car opposite will come forward?
I can't recall ever seeing it painted out in the yellow way.
A side note: Does anyone find it annoying when you don't know which junctions the opposite lights also go green? As they aren't marked, so sometimes you hesitate not knowing if the car opposite will come forward?
This reminds me of why 99% of the populus sit in the middle lane.
It fecks up everyone else.
Lane 1 is empty.
Everyone does it.
You aren't supposed to pass on the inside - so everyone goes on the outside.
Traffic flow is much slower.
Everyone gets to their destination later.
Drivers should be retested every year. 5 years ago I would be totally against it. But the sheer growth in talentless traffic is changing my mind on this.
My journey time has pretty much doubled due to the middle lane hoggers.
Rant over - I'll go hug a bunny.
It fecks up everyone else.
Lane 1 is empty.
Everyone does it.
You aren't supposed to pass on the inside - so everyone goes on the outside.
Traffic flow is much slower.
Everyone gets to their destination later.
Drivers should be retested every year. 5 years ago I would be totally against it. But the sheer growth in talentless traffic is changing my mind on this.
My journey time has pretty much doubled due to the middle lane hoggers.
Rant over - I'll go hug a bunny.
t who also pulls forward and blocks the junction. Which is why I always do red.Roo said:
I go through two big crossroads every day on the way to work and back. Both pass nearside to nearside.
If you went offside to offside you would just be driving up to a line of stationary cars and no one would get round the junction.
Ignorance and selfishness is the problem. I see the same daily blocking T junctions etcIf you went offside to offside you would just be driving up to a line of stationary cars and no one would get round the junction.
Where was the police bike at the time, just sat in the middle of the junction? Where the traffic lights out and he was directing traffic? To be fair if the bike was stationary in the middle of the junction then the common sense rule would change a bit and it might be reasonable that he'd want you to go round the back of him.
Looking at the original post though, I probs would do the red route if there was traffic coming towards me.
Looking at the original post though, I probs would do the red route if there was traffic coming towards me.
Carcharodon said:
How many times have you seen the it painted on the road in the red way?
I can't recall ever seeing it painted out in the yellow way.
A side note: Does anyone find it annoying when you don't know which junctions the opposite lights also go green? As they aren't marked, so sometimes you hesitate not knowing if the car opposite will come forward?
One I can think of, that you can possibly look at on google earth or whatever, is the junction of Newtown Road, and Sherrief Street, in Worcester.I can't recall ever seeing it painted out in the yellow way.
A side note: Does anyone find it annoying when you don't know which junctions the opposite lights also go green? As they aren't marked, so sometimes you hesitate not knowing if the car opposite will come forward?
I've seen many junctions painted both ways.
wiliferus said:
Also, yellow gives you a better view of the oncoming flow of traffic, where as with red the other turning car would block your view.
I always try to do yellow.
But you're driving up to the side of a queue of traffic. You can neither see what's coming or proceed because you're blocked by a line of stationary cars.I always try to do yellow.
Troubleatmill said:
Yellow is safest.
99%+ will say red. But they are wrong.
Edit: here you go. scroll down. http://findleys.co.uk/highway_code/road_junctions....
99%+ will say red. But they are wrong.
Edit: here you go. scroll down. http://findleys.co.uk/highway_code/road_junctions....
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 9th May 22:23
Troubleatmill said:
The idea is that it stops the line - so when the lights change - no one is stuck in the middle.
It does work. Problem is no-one reads the rules.
Q/ Do you think you could pass a theory test 9am tomorrow. If the answer is No. - Do something about it.
Now go tell 45 million of your friends.
That's the problem.
... Honestly 3 years ago - I'd say I'd pass with over 90%. Now - I'll confess I'd struggle to get 50%.
The reason I knew about the Highway Code rule on it was because I had to study for the theory test for bikes only a few weeks ago. Would I have passed without studying? Probably not. I certainly would have got that question wrong. I've been a car driver for 20 years. It does work. Problem is no-one reads the rules.
Q/ Do you think you could pass a theory test 9am tomorrow. If the answer is No. - Do something about it.
Now go tell 45 million of your friends.
That's the problem.
... Honestly 3 years ago - I'd say I'd pass with over 90%. Now - I'll confess I'd struggle to get 50%.
Edited by Troubleatmill on Thursday 9th May 22:48
As for the "it stops the line" reasoning, the problem would be, busy junctions would grind to a halt with potentially only one car getting round.
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