Audi make too many cars!!

Audi make too many cars!!

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Northernchimp

1,282 posts

134 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Vince70 said:
Northernchimp said:
Deerfoot said:
Chalk said:
A3 saloon? WTF
It will sell like hot cakes in the US and China, it`ll sell like dead dogs here.
I like these pointless saloons, from the Vauxhall Belmont to the 90s Megane Classic to the Mazda 3 saloon. They are neither spacious nor practical but usually look better than the hatch.

Would love a Merc CLA.
it may sell well as the old b5 A4 sold well which i guess is a similar size also the old 405/406 sold well as saloons but i do prefer a hatch anyway.
There was no hatch option on German barges back in the day though, short of a full blown estate. I suspect, given the option an A4 hatch would have outsold the saloon.

I'd have had the saloon though. I used to like the 306 saloon, and the Polo Classic, and the post-Orion Escort saloon. Would have had a Sierra Saphire over the hatch any day. I even liked the Daewoo Nexia saloon, and Lada Samara saloon. The only one I can think of that I actively disliked was the Suzuki Baleno saloon.

TVR1

5,464 posts

227 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Just wait for the A3 convertible, due next year. I saw it in December 2012 and it is gorgeous. Will probably kill that sector of the market stone dead upon release.

okie592

2,711 posts

169 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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They don't really make many more cars than BMW when you look at it.

This is just Audi bashing as usual.

Personally I really like the A3 saloon, same sort of
Size as a bora. Really nice.

kambites

67,708 posts

223 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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okie592 said:
Size as a bora. Really nice.
Hardly surprising given that they share all hard-points. hehe

Deerfoot

4,913 posts

186 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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okie592 said:
This is just Audi bashing as usual.
Not really.

There`s just so many cars in their line up these days. BMW are as bad and as has been said Mercedes will follow suit.

If you think about it a few years ago they had the A3, A4, A6, A8, TT with Avant versions of the A4 and A6.

Now they have the A1, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, Q3, Q5, Q7, TT and R8 models and of course they have Allroad versions of A4 and A6, Sportback versions of the A1, A3 and A5 and cabriolet versions of the A3 and A5.

Going back to the A3 saloon, it`ll probably not be much cheaper than the A4 so I can`t see who will want a car that`s arguably less practical than the A3 hatch but has less interior space than the A4 saloon.

It`ll do well in the US where hatches aren`t as popular as sedans but I can`t see it being a sales hit in the UK.

I`ve owned several Audis and they`ve been OK.

DocArbathnot

27,131 posts

185 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Deerfoot said:
Now they have the A1, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, Q3, Q5, Q7, TT and R8 models and of course they have Allroad versions of A4 and A6, Sportback versions of the A1, A3 and A5 and cabriolet versions of the A3 and A5.

Add in SE, Sport, Sline, S, quattro, manual, stroinc, multitroinc, Rtroinc, and a plethora of engine options and you have a truly confusing retail offer.
Then you have the cheek to tell someone if they want an Sline they can have any interior they like as long as it's black!! (or pay £****** for exclusive)

Cupramax

10,488 posts

254 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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TVR1 said:
Just wait for the A3 convertible, due next year. I saw it in December 2012 and it is gorgeous. Will probably kill that sector of the market stone dead upon release.
yes

E38Ross

35,180 posts

214 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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The range isn't complicated.

PH - a lack of choice matters.

Some Gump

12,738 posts

188 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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The real coup is that you think they're all totally different cars, but they're heavily platform shared.
I'd love to see just how many cars vag group make off what, 4 car platforms and 2 4x4's? Very cunning atrategy imo.

jhonn

1,567 posts

151 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Can't see the problem myself - it just gives the consumer more choice, not a bad thing in my book.

I'm sure they've done their market research in advance; if a particular model doesn't sell well they'll drop it, or rebadge it as a VW or Seat. It's part of their master plan for world domination!;) (a car for every niche.)

anonymous-user

56 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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God I hate choice I wish all car companies just made 1 car!

And on a serious note are they any different to their competition?

okie592

2,711 posts

169 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Deerfoot said:
Not really.

There`s just so many cars in their line up these days. BMW are as bad and as has been said Mercedes will follow suit.

If you think about it a few years ago they had the A3, A4, A6, A8, TT with Avant versions of the A4 and A6.

Now they have the A1, A3, A4, A5, A6, A7, A8, Q3, Q5, Q7, TT and R8 models and of course they have Allroad versions of A4 and A6, Sportback versions of the A1, A3 and A5 and cabriolet versions of the A3 and A5.

Going back to the A3 saloon, it`ll probably not be much cheaper than the A4 so I can`t see who will want a car that`s arguably less practical than the A3 hatch but has less interior space than the A4 saloon.

It`ll do well in the US where hatches aren`t as popular as sedans but I can`t see it being a sales hit in the UK.

I`ve owned several Audis and they`ve been OK.
But BMW have


1 series
1 coupe
1 convertable

3 saloon
3gt
3 estate
M3

4 coupe
4 convertible
M4

5 saloon
5 touring
5gt
M5

6Gt
6 coupe
6 convetable
M6

7

X1
X3
X5
X6

Hybrid 3 5 7

Not to mention mini

Coupe
Countryman
Hatch
Paceman
Convetable coupe
Convetable

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

248 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Audi only produce 2 cars - "the sedan" and "the SUV".

They simply build them in a lot of sizes.

forzaminardi

2,293 posts

189 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Deerfoot said:
Chalk said:
A3 saloon? WTF
It will sell like hot cakes in the US and China, it`ll sell like dead dogs here.
I quite like it, it's a normal saloon the size of an old A4.

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

235 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Some Gump said:
The real coup is that you think they're all totally different cars, but they're heavily platform shared.
I'd love to see just how many cars vag group make off what, 4 car platforms and 2 4x4's? Very cunning atrategy imo.
One of the first things to happen in '68, when BLMC had been formed, was a product planning exercise along these lines... 3 platforms from memory, covering all bases of the market scratchchin .

The plan was rejected (utterly misunderstood frown ) out of hand.

Oops silly !

Rawwr

22,722 posts

236 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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scott15 said:
So Audi may make a car which may not appeal to a lot of people in this country, however other countries may think its the best car yet. It all depends on peoples needs.
If people are buying Q3s, I'd say it's more a case of special needs.

Ian974

2,958 posts

201 months

Monday 23rd September 2013
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Audi only produce 2 cars - "the sedan" and "the SUV".

They simply build them in a lot of sizes.
hehe that's about the best way I've heard someone describe them!
But if you want a car sized between small and medium, do you go for the 'small medium', 'large small', 'extra-small large' or even the 'extra-large mini' one?

ajprice

27,814 posts

198 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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TAHodgson said:
Thought this earlier, doing a wheel refurb of an A5 Saloon. I thought there was the A4 (saloon) and the A5 was there as a coupe and convertible (much like the new 3&4 series BMW's) What's the point of a saloon version of the coupe version of a saloon car?
Would sir be interested in a 6 Series GranCoupe? It's like the 6 Series coupe that's based on the 5 series saloon car, but with 4 doors jester


AV12

5,319 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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Cupramax said:
yes
confused gorgeous? Really?

Tara llems

73 posts

129 months

Tuesday 24th September 2013
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