vibration through steering wheel on braking

vibration through steering wheel on braking

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Seesure

1,188 posts

241 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Kenny Powers said:
McWigglebum4th said:
Warped discs are very very rare.

Pad material pickup on the discs is far less rare. This gives different friction rates around the disc giving a judder through the steering.


No doubt a thousand experts will be along soon to say I am wrong
Pretty much exactly what I was about to post. Much more likely to be material pickup than warped rotors.
+1

And check the thrust arm bushes... Cold weather brings out the juddering symptoms in an instant...

A.J.M

7,954 posts

188 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Check discs and pads.

Also check front lower wishbones and the bushes.

Brothers 05 E46 had very bad wheel wobble, turned out the rear bushes on the front wishbones were worn.
New wishbones and problem is solved.

The Wookie

13,996 posts

230 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Warped discs aren't as rare as you might think (depending on construction) but Disc Thickness Variation or DTV is often what causes judder. It can either be uneven brake pad deposits or disc distortion when hot causing some areas of the disc to be worn away more than others.

If it's pad deposit then doing a bedding cycle, perhaps with a hard/aggressive set of pads if stubborn, should clean it up, if it's not then the discs are effectively scrap unless you want the hassle of getting them skimmed.

Either way if you haven't been on a track day or driving fast down any big hills then your calipers likely need attention, so avoid the risk of killing another set of discs and get them rebuilt!

Kenny Powers

2,618 posts

129 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Yeah pad deposits can sometimes be at least partially repaired by using an aggressive 'bedding-in' programme. I've done it myself with a high degree of success.


Edited by Kenny Powers on Monday 25th November 09:31

Otispunkmeyer

12,689 posts

157 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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steelej said:
Seriously? You think you can crush a vented disc by stepping on the pedal too hard?

John.
I forget how everyone on here is a bloody expert at everything!

Dodsy

7,174 posts

229 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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I think most or all possibilities have been covered in the previous replies...

Warped disks - covered on PH many times, there is no such thing. What causes vibration is usually a part of the disk that has been heated. Usually by sitting atopped on the brakes when they are hot. This causes a localised hardening of the disk which grips differently to the rest of the disk. This gives vibration. Fixed by skimming disks , replacing or sometimes if you are lucky a fair bit of heavy braking.

Suspension - just as likely as the disks IME get a garage to put it on the ramps and check your bushes, dampers. Springs etc. not that unusual to replace them on a 4 year old car depending on mileage, driving style and types of road you use.

Other things to consider (less likely) - wheel bearing. Bent alloy, brake pads low/failed.

My money would be on the disks but get the whole front end checked before spending - it only takes 10 mins for a garage to check everything.

HustleRussell

24,811 posts

162 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Otispunkmeyer said:
steelej said:
Seriously? You think you can crush a vented disc by stepping on the pedal too hard?

John.
I forget how everyone on here is a bloody expert at everything!
Nobody is claiming to be an expert, we just don't want to misinform the OP.

steelej

1,761 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th November 2013
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Otispunkmeyer said:
I forget how everyone on here is a bloody expert at everything!
I didn't say I was an expert but crushing a piece of cast iron with a brake pad, just think about it smile

John.