RE: Bugatti Veyron (price) crash
Discussion
Dale487 said:
Is this the most expensive piece automotive salvage ever?
Rowan Atkinson's F1 would have made this look cheap - market value over $2m and repair costs more than this thing is worth MINT ;0I believe what we're looking at is a resid-value auction which means you're buying a right to choose what happens to the car under the Insurers Terms - they won't see it just anyone, basically they want someone who's going to use the car for legit spares or have it repaired by someone who's authorised/qualified to do it.
If repair was financially viable, they'd have done it already tho - if these things were raced you'd have race teams in there but they're not so I'm not sure where it will end-up.
The Veyron market is hard-to-read but I get the feeling Bugatti aren't shoring-up prices (as many manufacturers do) and sales are hard to make with values a bit fragile - so the insurer is basically saying "anyone want us to repair this for them then?" and I'd say, from the bids, the answer is "no".
Edited by 405dogvan on Tuesday 26th August 11:36
I was a billionaire:
Buy this for £150000-£175000. Pay a good company known for this kind of craziness loads of money to stick powertrain/interior parts into a relatively cheap/decent road legal mid engined chassis available with a broken/optional powertrain. Then you've got a unique hypercar with a reliable 1000+hp in an 1100-1200kg car for £200,000-£225,000.
I'm 99% sure somebody will just repair it though.
Buy this for £150000-£175000. Pay a good company known for this kind of craziness loads of money to stick powertrain/interior parts into a relatively cheap/decent road legal mid engined chassis available with a broken/optional powertrain. Then you've got a unique hypercar with a reliable 1000+hp in an 1100-1200kg car for £200,000-£225,000.
I'm 99% sure somebody will just repair it though.
iloveboost said:
I was a billionaire:
Buy this for £150000-£175000. Pay a good company known for this kind of craziness loads of money to stick powertrain/interior parts into a relatively cheap/decent road legal mid engined chassis available with a broken/optional powertrain. Then you've got a unique hypercar with a reliable 1000+hp in an 1100-1200kg car for £200,000-£225,000.
I'm 99% sure somebody will just repair it though.
I think I'd just convert the engine into a table for my man cave.Buy this for £150000-£175000. Pay a good company known for this kind of craziness loads of money to stick powertrain/interior parts into a relatively cheap/decent road legal mid engined chassis available with a broken/optional powertrain. Then you've got a unique hypercar with a reliable 1000+hp in an 1100-1200kg car for £200,000-£225,000.
I'm 99% sure somebody will just repair it though.
smilo996 said:
I would but just not a colour I like.
As Gordon Murray. A car weighing 2 tons is not a sportscar.
Never liked the idea of the Veyron. Seems lazy just to put the biggest engine you can find drop it in a car to make it go fast.
The F1/P1 seems to be better in every way.
yawn, this is still a sports car, just not suited for the trackAs Gordon Murray. A car weighing 2 tons is not a sportscar.
Never liked the idea of the Veyron. Seems lazy just to put the biggest engine you can find drop it in a car to make it go fast.
The F1/P1 seems to be better in every way.
there's nothing lazy about the engineering that went into it either.
if anyone else can find me an equally refined 1,000 bhp car then please go ahead
Vipers said:
I have always though it is an ugly looking car.
Yeah, it is quite distinctive, but it is a Gothic looking, but at the same time a bit chintzy and gauche, sort of a motorised Faberge egg, a lot of the colour combinations don't help either.It should be so desired by petrolheads, but it doesn't seem to be, maybe that is an admission of never likely to sit in one, never mind own it but it just seems to not push my buttons.
Have seen them run at CPOP and there was no drama, didn't really make much of a noise. I am glad they made it and you cant ignore the achievement but it just do it for me at all.
Veyron or F40 ? how many would choose a Veyron, not many I suspect.
CraigyMc said:
I hate to piss in your cereal, but how would you cool it?
The most powerful Phaeton has 450bhp. You're going to need space for another 550bhp of radiator...
Oh, I'd get round that by cheating. You only need cooling capable of shedding more than 450 hp worth of waste heat if you intend to use more than 450 bhp continuously, i.e. the Veyron's 240-250 mph top speed runs. If I restrict myself to, say, 170 mph in a Phaeton (which seems terrifying enough, especially given the readily available tyres) that's only about 350 hp continuous power.The most powerful Phaeton has 450bhp. You're going to need space for another 550bhp of radiator...
So why bother? For short bursts. Even with limited cooling you could use full chat briefly for overtaking. Realistically I can't imagine using full thrust of 1000 hp in a Volkswagen saloon on public roads for more than three seconds at a time. Even 3 seconds at a time is enough to punch you quite cheerfully from 30-90 (a handy bit of A-road overtaking) or 70-120 on the motorway. Which would be suitably hilarious.
Around town it would only have similar cooling needs to the standard W12, it's not actually burning any more fuel than the standard car in the idle - 40 mph range.
J4CKO said:
Veyron or F40 ? how many would choose a Veyron, not many I suspect.
I would - I've never quite got the F40. If I had to choose a Ferrari, it would be the F50 or Enzo for me. Although I'd still have the Bugatti - in black please.For the people saying this car will get broken for parts - who is going to buy them?
I'd imagine most people who own a Veyron aren't going to be quibbling about the replacement cost of anything & certainly not looking on Ebay to see if anyone has a cheap 2nd hand bit for sale
Schermerhorn said:
Break it for parts. You'll easily get your money back.
Thing is...who crashes a Veyron in the first place?
Law of averages would say one of them has to crash at some point! perhaps unlucky, perhaps a rich numpty... who knows!Thing is...who crashes a Veyron in the first place?
I would have said the breaking market for Veyrons is pretty limited though. Anyone that has bought one won't really want second hand parts?
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