Saxo banana'd by lamppost......
Discussion
Sheepshanks said:
Krikkit said:
Problem is he hit the lamp-post, they're not very bendy, and much like hitting a tree a crash structure can only take so much.
Lamp-posts are designed to snap. Tree wouldn't budge but it's wider so may have spread the impact more, but the deceleration would be faster so more likely to cause death.If he hadn't hit the lamp-post or a tree, he could have been skewered by the wooden fence.
I vividly remember seeing a Saxo having been rear-ended on the M40 - it was basically just folded over on itself. Both front seat occupants died.
Max_Torque said:
Don't think your "tank" will save you either:
XC90_pole_test
And that's just 18mph!!!
(although with an "immovable" pole, rather than a lamp post (but because the impact point is so close to the base of the post, a real lamp post is pretty immovable too....)
First, thats an xc60 - not an xc90XC90_pole_test
And that's just 18mph!!!
(although with an "immovable" pole, rather than a lamp post (but because the impact point is so close to the base of the post, a real lamp post is pretty immovable too....)
Second, that pole test resulted in a 5 star rating.
Third, so yes, that (little) "tank" probably would save you.
lord trumpton said:
Awful
Bolton seems a miserable place to live - every story on that site is one of misery
It has plenty of nice bits but it also has the bit where I encountered a teenage girl far gone on drugs curled up in a ball in the middle of the road with drivers steering round her.Bolton seems a miserable place to live - every story on that site is one of misery
The comments below the article wishing the guy a horrible death show many of the local yocals to be very nasty, judgemental types.
Max_Torque said:
Judging by the bent over post, still attached at the base, in the pics from this scene, this unfortunately driver certainly didn't hit a "modern" lamppost........
I can't tell for certain from the pictures but I think it has snapped (although it looks more "torn") away from its base and then it's fallen onto the car. I reckon where the bottom of lamp-post is in the pictures is some distance to right of where its original position was. Indeed I would think the traffic cone is over the base.
I don't know of many cars which would hold up well to an impact like that, but Saxos are especially bad when compared to others!
Reminded me of this episode of traffic cops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A48gNSHIa_E Skip to about 44:00.
Another sideways impact involving a Saxo, different circumstances though, drunk driver loses control and gets t-boned by a people carrier. Not much left of it.
I remember seeing a PHers post in the "Show us your crash" thread of a black saxo with its entire front end ripped off with the dashboard hanging out of the car, was sobering to say the least.
Reminded me of this episode of traffic cops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A48gNSHIa_E Skip to about 44:00.
Another sideways impact involving a Saxo, different circumstances though, drunk driver loses control and gets t-boned by a people carrier. Not much left of it.
I remember seeing a PHers post in the "Show us your crash" thread of a black saxo with its entire front end ripped off with the dashboard hanging out of the car, was sobering to say the least.
Saxos and 106's can be fabtastic driver's cars, but for fk's sake, don't crash them! This was always the thought in the back of my mind when I was enjoying thrashing my 106 Rallye - the handling was incredible and it was amazing fun but contact with just about anything would see the car fold up like a deckchair.
So ironic that these Saxos would end up as cars for young, inexperienced drivers. They were cheap, quick and dangerous. I remember speaking to a colleague a out six years ago who had just made his 18 year old son sell his Saxo VTR. One of the lads friends, also driving a Saxo had been killed. He'd had a nasty crash resulting in the engine being forced backwards into the cabin, and was speared through the chest and out of his back by shattered metal, pinning him to the seat. Sensible dad said there was no way his son would be driving a Saxo again.
The 106/Saxo combination of dreadful crash protection and occasionally lairy handling on the limit will have seen off more than a few of them. I recall one PH'er, an inexperienced driver, getting a 106 GTi and saying he wanted to learn about oversteer. He promptly crashed it and wrote it off, a fate I'm sure many of these cars have shared.
So ironic that these Saxos would end up as cars for young, inexperienced drivers. They were cheap, quick and dangerous. I remember speaking to a colleague a out six years ago who had just made his 18 year old son sell his Saxo VTR. One of the lads friends, also driving a Saxo had been killed. He'd had a nasty crash resulting in the engine being forced backwards into the cabin, and was speared through the chest and out of his back by shattered metal, pinning him to the seat. Sensible dad said there was no way his son would be driving a Saxo again.
The 106/Saxo combination of dreadful crash protection and occasionally lairy handling on the limit will have seen off more than a few of them. I recall one PH'er, an inexperienced driver, getting a 106 GTi and saying he wanted to learn about oversteer. He promptly crashed it and wrote it off, a fate I'm sure many of these cars have shared.
Max_Torque said:
surveyor said:
SuperPav said:
Before someone else says it... That's what happens when you fit mismatched budget tyres.
I think it's more what happens if you crash into a lamppost in a tinny Saxo.XC90_pole_test
Same crash tests as Saxo
http://youtu.be/M21inFc51t4
And that's just 18mph!!!
(although with an "immovable" pole, rather than a lamp post (but because the impact point is so close to the base of the post, a real lamp post is pretty immovable too....)
Nasty, managed to bend my first car in a similar manner, a MK1 escort versus 2 way traffic sign at approx 60mph. (damp road, ditch finder tyres and and more enthusiasm than talent)
my best mate was in the passenger seat, but with remarkable insight dived in to the back seat before the impact, (car did several 360 degree spins before armageddon )
We were lucky, only injury was the lad in the back had his ankle broken by the other lad diving on him.
Hope the kid in this incident has chance to reminisce about the day he totalled his car.
my best mate was in the passenger seat, but with remarkable insight dived in to the back seat before the impact, (car did several 360 degree spins before armageddon )
We were lucky, only injury was the lad in the back had his ankle broken by the other lad diving on him.
Hope the kid in this incident has chance to reminisce about the day he totalled his car.
WinstonWolf said:
My kids are about to start driving, there's no way I'd ever let them buy a Saxo, they're made of reconstituted cheese slices. I tried to pick one up on the main chassis member once, it just started folding over the wooden packer on the jack. No structural rigidity whatsoever
If its any help, my daughter roller her Corsa a couple of years back.The Fire chaps were very impressed by how well the car held up.
It took them a while to cut her out with it still being on its roof.
Cant post pics right now due to company firewall but will try later.
Hope this lad lives to learn the lesson.
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