Upto £1,500 to change the clutch on a Golf? Surely not?
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GreatGranny said:
Are you sure its the clutch and not just the master cylinder?
ie. needs new seals
(ignore this if its cable operated)
made that mistake years ago when my mates Mini wouldn't go into gear.
Changed the clutch on his driveway (b
h of a job) and then found out it just needed a clutch master cylinder repair kit for £3! Oops
I'm not, no.ie. needs new seals
(ignore this if its cable operated)
made that mistake years ago when my mates Mini wouldn't go into gear.
Changed the clutch on his driveway (b
h of a job) and then found out it just needed a clutch master cylinder repair kit for £3! OopsThe symptoms are hard to get into gear sometimes when car stationary and goes in with a bit of a crunch.
Seems to bite in the right place...
g7jhp said:
Ari said:
Sensible advice but neither the time nor the inclination to do that. Just want to drop it off and pick it up later fixed.
Not for £1,500 just to change the clutch though!
But it's not £1,500 to change the clutch.Not for £1,500 just to change the clutch though!
It's:
£1,000 to change clutch
or
£1,500 to change clutch and flywheel
Not surprising for a main dealer. Go indie or pay the full price and move on.
Ari said:
GreatGranny said:
Are you sure its the clutch and not just the master cylinder?
ie. needs new seals
(ignore this if its cable operated)
made that mistake years ago when my mates Mini wouldn't go into gear.
Changed the clutch on his driveway (bh of a job) and then found out it just needed a clutch master cylinder repair kit for £3! Oops
I'm not, no.ie. needs new seals
(ignore this if its cable operated)
made that mistake years ago when my mates Mini wouldn't go into gear.
Changed the clutch on his driveway (b
h of a job) and then found out it just needed a clutch master cylinder repair kit for £3! OopsThe symptoms are hard to get into gear sometimes when car stationary and goes in with a bit of a crunch.
Seems to bite in the right place...
TooMany2cvs said:
matchmaker said:
aka_kerrly said:
^^ This. Dump the DMF.
I understand it's not a VW Golf, but last week one of my lads had a new clutch and release bearing fitted in his 2005 Picanto.
Main dealer wanted £560
Local (reputable) Indy did it in 2.5 hours for £180.....parts were £50 plus VAT.
Whilst it's an immaculate nice little car it's only worth around £700, so £560 was a non starter.
Car is good for at least a couple of years now.
Main dealer wanted £560
Local (reputable) Indy did it in 2.5 hours for £180.....parts were £50 plus VAT.
Whilst it's an immaculate nice little car it's only worth around £700, so £560 was a non starter.
Car is good for at least a couple of years now.
wack said:
Don't be tempted to save a few quid and supply your own parts, if they supply and fit and there's a problem it's down to them, if you supply the parts you'll be paying again to get them out then arguing who's fault it was, fitter or clutch manufacturer.
plus you won't save anything , he'll just add an hour on to cover the lost profit on the parts
Yep, been there and done this. Never again!!!plus you won't save anything , he'll just add an hour on to cover the lost profit on the parts
kambites said:
Sadly, modern cars aren't designed to be easy to service.
Yes they are. Everything about them has got more complicated though. I don't think any mass produced car has ever been designed specifically to be easy to service/repair at home. It just so happens that it used to be easier to do.RenOHH said:
kambites said:
Sadly, modern cars aren't designed to be easy to service.
Yes they are. Everything about them has got more complicated though. I don't think any mass produced car has ever been designed specifically to be easy to service/repair at home. It just so happens that it used to be easier to do.VAG certainly seem to have a knack for awkward designs. For example I had to change the air conditioning condenser/drier on the wife's Skoda earlier this summer. With very little effort they could have designed it so you could simply disconnect the pipes then slot the thing upwards out of the engine bay but instead in order to get it out you had to remove the following:
The front wheels
The front wheel arch liners
The headlights
The plastic front bumper
The bonnet slam panel
The front crash structure
The radiator
The inter-cooler
You have to do exactly the same thing to replace the intercooler or the radiator as well, so it's not just one isolated component that's the issue. I'm sure the design as is saved them a few pounds per car so I dare say it was the right thing to do from a commercial standpoint, but from an engineering point of view it's daft.
kambites said:
RenOHH said:
kambites said:
Sadly, modern cars aren't designed to be easy to service.
Yes they are. Everything about them has got more complicated though. I don't think any mass produced car has ever been designed specifically to be easy to service/repair at home. It just so happens that it used to be easier to do.VAG certainly seem to have a knack for awkward designs. For example I had to change the air conditioning condenser/drier on the wife's Skoda earlier this summer. With very little effort they could have designed it so you could simply disconnect the pipes then slot the thing upwards out of the engine bay but instead in order to get it out you had to remove the following:
The front wheels
The front wheel arch liners
The headlights
The plastic front bumper
The bonnet slam panel
The front crash structure
The radiator
The inter-cooler
You have to do exactly the same thing to replace the intercooler or the radiator as well, so it's not just one isolated component that's the issue. I'm sure the design as is saved them a few pounds per car so I dare say it was the right thing to do from a commercial standpoint, but from an engineering point of view it's daft.
I poop you not. Manual states main dealer only and I think they quote 3 hours labour and £1.50 for the actual bulb.
kambites said:
RenOHH said:
kambites said:
Sadly, modern cars aren't designed to be easy to service.
Yes they are. Everything about them has got more complicated though. I don't think any mass produced car has ever been designed specifically to be easy to service/repair at home. It just so happens that it used to be easier to do.VAG certainly seem to have a knack for awkward designs. For example I had to change the air conditioning condenser/drier on the wife's Skoda earlier this summer. With very little effort they could have designed it so you could simply disconnect the pipes then slot the thing upwards out of the engine bay but instead in order to get it out you had to remove the following:
The front wheels
The front wheel arch liners
The headlights
The plastic front bumper
The bonnet slam panel
The front crash structure
The radiator
The inter-cooler
You have to do exactly the same thing to replace the intercooler or the radiator as well, so it's not just one isolated component that's the issue. I'm sure the design as is saved them a few pounds per car so I dare say it was the right thing to do from a commercial standpoint, but from an engineering point of view it's daft.
Right Headlight
CAI deflector
bit of plastic over the top.
Front Undertray (13 bolts!! 4 plastic clips)
Horn
Intercooler
Power steering cooler (helpfully not mentioned in the HBOL as it's not fitted to the cooking models).
Then prise the condenser from the radiator and remove out of the bottom of the car.
Anyway, back on the topic. Diesel clutch replacement will need a new flywheel. No point in not replacing it. I wouldn't go SMF unless you really dislike your gearbox and really like NVH.
If only everything in life was as reliable as a Volkswagen!
You say highish miles but don't specify how many - my 123d managed over 80,000 on the original clutch!
But from your description of the problem it doesn't sound like it slips so do you really need a new one or is the problem something else?
You say highish miles but don't specify how many - my 123d managed over 80,000 on the original clutch!
But from your description of the problem it doesn't sound like it slips so do you really need a new one or is the problem something else?
Half an hour? Wow. How?
The Fiesta Mk1 and 2 were easy, you had to undo the suspension and pull the driveshafts out, then drop the starter and once the bellhousing bolts were out there was space to pull the box off and drop it out. Then just unbolt the clutch. Even at home that wasn't too bad. Cable clutch too, nice and reliable. Whatever was wrong with cable clutches? At least when a cable breaks it's easy to fix, unlike a bd concentric cylinder that sits there cooking and waiting to wreck the clutch when the awful day comes and it starts leaking.
The Fiesta Mk1 and 2 were easy, you had to undo the suspension and pull the driveshafts out, then drop the starter and once the bellhousing bolts were out there was space to pull the box off and drop it out. Then just unbolt the clutch. Even at home that wasn't too bad. Cable clutch too, nice and reliable. Whatever was wrong with cable clutches? At least when a cable breaks it's easy to fix, unlike a b
d concentric cylinder that sits there cooking and waiting to wreck the clutch when the awful day comes and it starts leaking.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff