Quad bike crash four dead

Quad bike crash four dead

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JonoG81

384 posts

107 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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I hate these things with a passion, yes they have their uses with regards to farming/agricultural purposes, but 9 times out of ten they are being ragged up and down housing estates & local playing fields with no regards to their or others safety, and unfortunately this is the outcome.

Such a waste of life, I cannot begin to imagine how their parents are feeling at this moment.

Pistom

5,110 posts

161 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Not sure who to feel most sorry for and certainly can't judge with so little information.

I hope the driver of the car is not made a scapegoat just because 4 people have died.


Al U

2,313 posts

133 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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GrumpyTwig said:
Al U said:
How do you get 4 people on a quad bike is the real question here.
Doesn't seem to be enough wreckage to be one of those quad/buggy things that does seat 4. So 4 up on a 2 seat quad maybe? Dangerous in itself.
That's the thing I didn't get, I've seen quite a bit of news coverage about it but no one seems to say that they were 4 up on a quad bike which as you say is asking for it. I know people have died and it's tragic, but sounds like it could of been easily avoided.

so called

9,104 posts

211 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Vaud said:
TheLordJohn said:
Don't think a 16 YO girl should be out at mid night, though...
Why? 16 year olds are allowed to work...
And get married and have baby's.

I cant imagine the grief being suffered by the parents right now. frown

ikarl

3,734 posts

201 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Al U said:
That's the thing I didn't get, I've seen quite a bit of news coverage about it but no one seems to say that they were 4 up on a quad bike which as you say is asking for it. I know people have died and it's tragic, but sounds like it could of been easily avoided.
You think they were asking to be killed? fk sake! Yes, it was stupid, reckless and downright dangerous....but asking to be killed??

WarnieV6GT

1,139 posts

201 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Yes quads are a complete pain in the arse to almost everyone but the rider, who is normally a complete and utter bell end who cannot make a simply maneuver without blipping the throttle constantly for no reason. I am so glad these were not popular when I was 16/17 as I know I would have wanted one and would have been one of these bell ends.

They need cracking down on. A must wear helmet would be a start, followed by a noise restriction. Anything to make them less attractive to folk who just want to rag them on unsuitable roads and create havoc in quiet neighbourhoods.

zebra

4,555 posts

216 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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ikarl said:
Al U said:
That's the thing I didn't get, I've seen quite a bit of news coverage about it but no one seems to say that they were 4 up on a quad bike which as you say is asking for it. I know people have died and it's tragic, but sounds like it could of been easily avoided.
You think they were asking to be killed? fk sake! Yes, it was stupid, reckless and downright dangerous....but asking to be killed??
Chill Winston. "Asking for it" was only there as a term of phrase in as much as they were ignoring safety.

The poster is right as death could easily be avoided and that's without knowledge of how it happened because the bare minimum of facts points to stupidity:

Four on a quad
Clearly interacting with the Nissan


Jam Spavlin

909 posts

187 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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WarnieV6GT said:
Yes quads are a complete pain in the arse to almost everyone but the rider, who is normally a complete and utter bell end who cannot make a simply maneuver without blipping the throttle constantly for no reason. I am so glad these were not popular when I was 16/17 as I know I would have wanted one and would have been one of these bell ends.

They need cracking down on. A must wear helmet would be a start, followed by a noise restriction. Anything to make them less attractive to folk who just want to rag them on unsuitable roads and create havoc in quiet neighbourhoods.
The recent influx of cheap Chinese sports/road quads has made these things accessible to people who are usually seen tearing up the local council estate in modified corsas.

Why these things are able to be ridden on a car licence is ridiculous they share nothing in character to a car and are more like a motorcycle.... A very bad handling motorcycle, therefore a motorcycle licence not a car licence should be required and all that goes with it e.g. helmets.

Still wouldn't have stopped this particular accident though as the people on it had absolutely no respect for the law or their own personal safety.

mph1977

12,467 posts

170 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Thermobaric said:
I don't think I've ever seen someone driving a quad bike on the road that wasn't driving like an utter bellend. Sure, they don't have to wear helmets but it shows you the intelligence of the drivers seeing as they don't.
urban/ suburban setting and 'sports quad' = bellendery is 99% certain

in the proper sticks , agri quad and PPE = just another tool that farmers, Gamekeepers and equestrians use in their 'office'

TwistingMyMelon

6,388 posts

207 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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See a few guys in my village ragging it around on the road on a quad, looks like the unsafest vehicle known to man! Whilst riding them you "feel" safer than a motorbike, but I'm sure you are far more at risk and less control/balance/physics against you.

Not knocking quads, I really enjoy them and great tools for the outdoor, but blimey some of the road ones look deathraps! I rolled one before and it landed on me, it hurt, but it was soft mud, so no harm done, wouldn't fancy it on concrete!


FrankAbagnale

1,704 posts

114 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Do all quad bikes have rear lights?

rovermorris999

5,203 posts

191 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Very sad but Darwinian selection at work. Having said that I'm glad Darwin was looking the other way a few times when I was young and daft (as opposed to old and daft before anyone says it).

AyBee

10,571 posts

204 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Pistom said:
Not sure who to feel most sorry for and certainly can't judge with so little information.

I hope the driver of the car is not made a scapegoat just because 4 people have died.
Given that the damage caused in those photos shows the quad still in the road and reports have already said the Nissan hit the quad from behind, the closing speed must have been large - what redeeming features are there to not make a scapegoat out of the driver?

Vaud

51,008 posts

157 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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AyBee said:
Given that the damage caused in those photos shows the quad still in the road and reports have already said the Nissan hit the quad from behind, the closing speed must have been large - what redeeming features are there to not make a scapegoat out of the driver?
Because we don't know all the circumstances?

iloveboost

1,531 posts

164 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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OldGermanHeaps said:
Quite easily. Out in the sticks we used to ride a cub 90 4 up down a disused railway track to get to school. After thas a ts250 was luxury.
The local 'youths' here used to ride old scooters and bikes up and down dis-used railway tracks, until the police cracked down on it. I heard a rumour that one lad even 'borrowed' his fathers old speedway bike. biggrin

Frimley111R

15,730 posts

236 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Tragic but I can imagine alcohol, 5 mates, a quad bike, no lights a great laugh plus a 350Z driving along the same road and, not surprisingly, not expecting an unlit and overloaded quad bike in the road.

dub16v

1,137 posts

143 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Jam Spavlin said:
Shame one of the scummers has already bred. Natural selection at work.
... sometimes I do wonder what goes through peoples' minds before posting on here.

tuffer

8,850 posts

269 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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dub16v said:
Jam Spavlin said:
Shame one of the scummers has already bred. Natural selection at work.
... sometimes I do wonder what goes through peoples' minds before posting on here.
Not a lot I would have thought.

Jimmm

2,505 posts

185 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Four up on a quad on the public highway at midnight? Even if they weren't speeding/racing that is fking stupid.

I can't imagine the grief the parents are dealing with.

AyBee

10,571 posts

204 months

Monday 28th September 2015
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Vaud said:
AyBee said:
Given that the damage caused in those photos shows the quad still in the road and reports have already said the Nissan hit the quad from behind, the closing speed must have been large - what redeeming features are there to not make a scapegoat out of the driver?
Because we don't know all the circumstances?
Agreed, I was merely pointing out that nobody is likely to be made a scapegoat of - if the driver of the Nissan is found to be at fault, he'll quite rightly have the book thrown at him for the deaths of 4 people.