RE: Audi SQ7: UK Review

RE: Audi SQ7: UK Review

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Gary C

12,569 posts

180 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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V10Ace said:
CS Garth said:
Another vulgar chav chariot for those who aspire to be nouveau riche and thus wish to adorn themselves with the trinkets of the tasteless on tick
Your comment really Show's just how awful your life must truly be....

Please try to enjoy your Sunday, the Sun is out.. ;-)
Experience shows he is sort of right though wink

jagfan2

391 posts

178 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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It'd the same size as as an rs6, not much heavier, cheaper, nearly as fast, in 90% of situations and faster in some, and much more economical and practical? Same with sq5 over and rs3 or rs5

Oh and all 18My on petrol will have nearly the same aftertreatment complexity and cost, hot v8's have yet to prove there longevity, and all big petrol cars have suicidal depreciation, have a look at an big AMG more than 3 yes old!

This motor in the panamera is amazing Gt though

cayman-black

12,695 posts

217 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Very impressive shame its so ugly and has no character what so ever.

CS Garth

2,860 posts

106 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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V10Ace said:
CS Garth said:
Another vulgar chav chariot for those who aspire to be nouveau riche and thus wish to adorn themselves with the trinkets of the tasteless on tick
Your comment really Show's just how awful your life must truly be....

Please try to enjoy your Sunday, the Sun is out.. ;-)
I'm not sure that happiness is exclusively the domain of Audi SQ7 appreciators, cynics can and often do lead full and normal lives!

Wills2

23,079 posts

176 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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jagfan2 said:
It'd the same size as as an rs6, not much heavier, cheaper, nearly as fast, in 90% of situations and faster in some, and much more economical and practical? Same with sq5 over and rs3 or rs5

Oh and all 18My on petrol will have nearly the same aftertreatment complexity and cost, hot v8's have yet to prove there longevity , and all big petrol cars have suicidal depreciation, have a look at an big AMG more than 3 yes old!

This motor in the panamera is amazing Gt though
The F10 M5 has been around for 6 years with no major issues owners in the states have been tuning the arse of them as well.



Frio3535

596 posts

136 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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An interesting proposition for folk in North America & Middle East - not so much in the UK.

ZX10R NIN

27,718 posts

126 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Wills2 said:
The F10 M5 has been around for 6 years with no major issues owners in the states have been tuning the arse of them as well.

The bottom ends are now starting to prove a bit suspect on the tuned examples, plus we'll have to wait 6 years to see if this engine proves to be unreliable because as yet no one commenting on here has a clue if this engine is a good one or not. I look forward to seeing it in an A6.

big_rob_sydney

3,412 posts

195 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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What a fat bd of a car.

2.3 tonnes? Seriously? And such a behemoth will be used by how many soccer moms to take a single child out in to school. You could use pretty much ANY car to do that.

But that's actually secondary to the sheer size of this abomination. How will people even park them in standard sized spaces, navigate tight multi-story car parks, or, heaven forbid, park them in a typical suburban garage?

If ever there was a caricature of a vehicle, this is really staking a claim.

Krikkit

26,593 posts

182 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Wills2 said:
jagfan2 said:
It'd the same size as as an rs6, not much heavier, cheaper, nearly as fast, in 90% of situations and faster in some, and much more economical and practical? Same with sq5 over and rs3 or rs5

Oh and all 18My on petrol will have nearly the same aftertreatment complexity and cost, hot v8's have yet to prove there longevity , and all big petrol cars have suicidal depreciation, have a look at an big AMG more than 3 yes old!

This motor in the panamera is amazing Gt though
The F10 M5 has been around for 6 years with no major issues owners in the states have been tuning the arse of them as well.

Add onto that all the durability testing Mercedes will have done on their 4L hot-V which goes in all the AMG models as well as their flagship sports car.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

213 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Downward said:
Surely anyone spending £97k on a 4x4 is just going to go straight for a Range Rover.
Indeed a nice Petrol Supercharged one is £105K so not a million miles away

Alternatives include

GLS AMG 63 at £102K

BMW X5M starts at £69 if you don't need 7 seats

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Rich_W said:
Indeed a nice Petrol Supercharged one is £105K so not a million miles away

Alternatives include

GLS AMG 63 at £102K

BMW X5M starts at £69 if you don't need 7 seats
This car 'starts' at £72k, remember. You don't have to drop £25k on options. Not even close. The gap to the SVR is bigger in reality - especially once you start considering the fact the Audis like this will be subject to 'offers' sooner rather than later due to (lack of) demand.

There's one in my local dealer with a black pack on and it's a beast of a car. Too big for me, for sure (Q5 is perhaps the biggest you'd really want in prefer to not just add awkwardness to your life), but the interior was lovely and the black pack removed a lot of the shiner details that could add to the busy nature of a chromed model.

TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

223 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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Fakery a supporting role, don't think so. It's all fakery.
Which German manufacturer is going to be first to have noise actuation juice for their diesels?

philmots

4,634 posts

261 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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jagfan2 said:
It'd the same size as as an rs6, not much heavier, cheaper, nearly as fast, in 90% of situations and faster in some,
I'd love to know in what real world situation this SQ7 will be faster than an RS6.


numtumfutunch

4,750 posts

139 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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philmots said:
jagfan2 said:
It'd the same size as as an rs6, not much heavier, cheaper, nearly as fast, in 90% of situations and faster in some,
I'd love to know in what real world situation this SQ7 will be faster than an RS6.
Have you ever driven an SUV?

Dale487

1,336 posts

124 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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numtumfutunch said:
martin12345 said:
The problem with this car is it's engine !! - who in their right mind is going to be willing to keep this thing on the road when it is ~10 years old. 2 turbo's, electric compressor, 2 EGR systems, Ad-blue injection, 2 DPF's and 8 common rail injectors plus their pump. There is about £10 to£20k of kit on this engine to deliver the performance and let it be legal. If you compare this with the kit on a petrol engine delivering similar performance (either V12 or V8 twin turbo) there are so just many huge bills that are going to arrive to keep it on the road that everything like this is going to end up as scrap
You beat me to it

Our daily hack is 14y old and looked after by the local spanner monkeys for jobs I cant do myself

I have no idea who will keep an SQ7 going in 14y time for sensible money
Shed of the Week 2030?

PhilboSE

4,408 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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PhantomPH said:
This car 'starts' at £72k, remember. You don't have to drop £25k on options. Not even close. The gap to the SVR is bigger in reality - especially once you start considering the fact the Audis like this will be subject to 'offers' sooner rather than later due to (lack of) demand.

There's one in my local dealer with a black pack on and it's a beast of a car. Too big for me, for sure (Q5 is perhaps the biggest you'd really want in prefer to not just add awkwardness to your life), but the interior was lovely and the black pack removed a lot of the shiner details that could add to the busy nature of a chromed model.
My SQ7 is similarly specced to the review model and I paid £75k for it, factory order. It is very hard to get a discount on a RR and with a few options an SVR is £115k+. That is one heck of a gap. The engine in the SQ7 makes the V8 diesel in the RR look (and feel) positively primordial, and gets economy that an SVR RR can only dream of (I get 30mpg on my typical urban/B-road driving and 38mpg on motorway runs).

There's a lot of prejudice and ignorance displayed in any SUV thread, we've come to expect that from the small minded people, but it's a shame to see some of it from Dan Trent, who one assumes aspires to become a motoring journalist when he grows up.

stubox

469 posts

242 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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We're changing our RS6 C7 to one of these.

But only because we now need to tow 2 ton plus.

Had considered popping a towbar on the RS but it's got the carbon pack so as it is we'd be removing the rear piece but I'd fret taking it into a field anyway.
I don't see it a performance product as the RS is , but as a towing , 7 seater tug boat it's pretty much peerless (yes tried the LR offering but preferred the lighter torquier Audi and ironically had a defender 110 until recently...)

Funnily enough it was easy to drive politely but I can appreciate how some drivers would glory in its intimidatory stature especially in black, ours will be a cheerful blue. Btw i can't think of any particular piece of road it would be quicker than the RS6.

Now I'm going into mourning and bulk buying ad blue.

AdamGP

198 posts

125 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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My MD has one, nothing short of epic for the size, even if it sounds digital.

The Quattro sticks to walls apparently 😂

TheDrBrian

5,444 posts

223 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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numtumfutunch said:
philmots said:
jagfan2 said:
It'd the same size as as an rs6, not much heavier, cheaper, nearly as fast, in 90% of situations and faster in some,
I'd love to know in what real world situation this SQ7 will be faster than an RS6.
Have you ever driven an SUV?
Is this the mythical real world where diesel batters petrol in gear?
Or the universe where a transit is faster than a boxster?

PhilboSE

4,408 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th April 2017
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TheDrBrian said:
Is this the mythical real world where diesel batters petrol in gear?
Or the universe where a transit is faster than a boxster?
The observation wasn't about speed, it was about the difference between car types.

Some people think that people buy fast SUVs because they're fast. They don't. They buy them because they're an SUV. Only then do they think about buying the fast one.

And yes, my SQ7 does batter a (say) RR SVR in gear - because 900Nm vs 680Nm.