RE: Proper 4x4s: Market Watch

[JMF894]

Diahatsu Fourtrak was a great bit of kit for off roading when I was a yoof. Spent many an hour on the tops near Chesterfield in the snow.

Not many left now though.

[anonymous-user]

thiscocks said:

A nice original Land Cruiser: http://lendasvivas.pt/index.php/component/rdautos/...

That sort of cash would buy a very nice Land Rover Series II, which would hold its value very well.

Not that you would know it from reading this article though! Seems to have been the product of 15 minutes looking at some old classified ads with a few clichés thrown in for good measure. It is almost entirely lacking in any actual information.

[Adz The Rat]

AJDMoss said:

I was in Reigate yesterday (a relatively urban town in Surrey) and spotted this. I am not usually a massive fan of these kinds of vehicles especially when the underside looks like it has never left clean tarmac, but this Spectre edition looked bad ass!

We stood watching an incapable driver mount the kerb in his Zafira and then he wrecked 2 of his wheels scraping them along the kerb, this guy turned up and parked perfectly and the Zafira driver had the cheek to comment saying "not sure why that gets all the attention" I was so tempted to say at least there is no risk of him kerbing those rims.like you did!

Seemingly stopping production of these has done their values the world of good.

Edited by AJDMoss on Wednesday 19th April 20:47

Im sure that belongs to Andy B who frequents these forums and Instagram.

[dunnoreally]

Still seems kind of mad to me that people will pay even that much for a Niva - in some parts of the world the things are everywhere. Not cheap getting them back here, though, I guess.

[55palfers]

stuckmojo said:

most G wagens are petrol (thought they do drink more than Ollie Reid on a bender (ask me how I know - 8 MPG on mine)

8 mpg!

Well done.

I can sometimes nurse 15 out of my 300 LWB.

I told my wife it was economical.

[Jimmy Recard]

Derek Chevalier said:

Isn't it?

I've just realised I haven't been checking for months! It may well be now. I thought my knowledge was more up to date

[oceanview]

AJDMoss said:

I was in Reigate yesterday (a relatively urban town in Surrey) and spotted this. I am not usually a massive fan of these kinds of vehicles especially when the underside looks like it has never left clean tarmac, but this Spectre edition looked bad ass!

We stood watching an incapable driver mount the kerb in his Zafira and then he wrecked 2 of his wheels scraping them along the kerb, this guy turned up and parked perfectly and the Zafira driver had the cheek to comment saying "not sure why that gets all the attention" I was so tempted to say at least there is no risk of him kerbing those rims.like you did!

Seemingly stopping production of these has done their values the world of good.

Edited by AJDMoss on Wednesday 19th April 20:47

No, that's naff-trying too hard and Is probably a closet member of the "one life, live it" brigade. 1/10 only.

[z06tim]

I'm surprised with the Pistonheads love for the Dacia Duster, that ARO has not got a mention.

I saw this ARO244 a few years back in Romania. It looked pretty robust.

[Adz The Rat]

oceanview said:

No, that's naff-trying too hard and Is probably a closet member of the "one life, live it" brigade. 1/10 only.

Haha definitely not!

[Krikkit]

z06tim said:

I'm surprised with the Pistonheads love for the Dacia Duster, that ARO has not got a mention.

I saw this ARO244 a few years back in Romania. It looked pretty robust.

This isn't an obsessive "list every body on frame 4x4 article", never mind a rotten old ARO.

[new_bloke]

oceanview said:

AJDMoss said:

I was in Reigate yesterday (a relatively urban town in Surrey) and spotted this. I am not usually a massive fan of these kinds of vehicles especially when the underside looks like it has never left clean tarmac, but this Spectre edition looked bad ass!

We stood watching an incapable driver mount the kerb in his Zafira and then he wrecked 2 of his wheels scraping them along the kerb, this guy turned up and parked perfectly and the Zafira driver had the cheek to comment saying "not sure why that gets all the attention" I was so tempted to say at least there is no risk of him kerbing those rims.like you did!

Seemingly stopping production of these has done their values the world of good.

Edited by AJDMoss on Wednesday 19th April 20:47

No, that's naff-trying too hard and Is probably a closet member of the "one life, live it" brigade. 1/10 only.

I see that from time to time. It's hilarious. Suspiciously shiny too. Couldn't be more try-hard if it, ummm, tried. I'll eat my shoes if any of that nailed on stuff has ever been used.

[hondansx]

Yes, that is Andy's i believe. The guy who owns Lanzante (who looks after all those lovely McLaren F1s) also has a similar one, but the numberplate says DAR7TH to go with his Cayman GT4 on V4DER.

[Some Gump]

Surely it's 4x4: Market Walt?

[GWADD]

What about the mighty Nissan Patrol ????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so5Cwbo_i-c

[caelite]

richs2891 said:

caelite said:

Or a Shogun with the super reliable electric/vacuum run super select 4wd. I was always petrified of engaging my low range/difflocks as I was never sure they could be disengaged again after use.

Thats is generally caused by not using it ! The old saying, use it or lose it. Equally true for diff locks, regular use keeps them in good order and stops them sticking.

Yup, previous few owners had only used it on the road, I eventually sorted it, had to go in and loosen everything off by hand and lube up the whole system, then changed the completely siezed solenoid with a £15 eBay unit (Mitsubishi wanted £180). Worked fine after all that, although personally I prefered the old mechanical system in my L200

[LewisR]

SlimJim16v said:

Maybe it's just me, but I always take it as -
4x4 = off-road vehicle
4wd = road car

What about the Ford Sierra XR4x4, 4x4 Ghia Estate or the Fiat Panda 4x4, amongst many other cars witha 4x4 badge ?

[300bhp/ton]

I really have to ask, but where exactly has Piston Heads managed to dig up this nugget of total bulst with regards to the 2.2 Defender???

Piston Heads said:

some enthusiasts reckon it's actually too powerful for the Defender, making it less controllable

I mean WTF.... have you actually looked at the power output of the 2.2 and compared to say the 2.4 the Td5 or even a Tdi, let alone a 1980's 3.5 V8

[300bhp/ton]

You have an error on your Wrangler article:

Piston Heads said:

Notably, the TJ brought the first diesel Wrangler to be available in the UK. The 200hp 2.8-litre unit is rather noisy, but provides a decent amount of grunt, and it's probably the engine of choice if you're on a budget or looking for an easy buy.

That should be JK not TJ. And they weren't 200hp (well 197hp) until the 2011 face lift, earlier models where approx 170hp.

You also don't mention the 3.8 V6, that while rarer than the 3.6 was available in the UK in limited numbers.

I would also suggest your are little out with your pricing for all Jeeps. They are generally more costly than the article suggest and you are highly unlikely to find a JK at £10k, cheapest one on ebay is just under £11k and there is a choice of 1 only at that price.

[300bhp/ton]

SlimJim16v said:

Maybe it's just me, but I always take it as -
4x4 = off-road vehicle
4wd = road car

Sorry but that's just wrong and somewhat American... the number of 4x4 vs 4wd/AWD vids on YouTube by Americans is comical trying to explain just this.

A Subaru Impreza for instance uses exactly the same type of 4wd system as a Range Rover does.

While a Freelander uses the same type as a VW Golf does, which are different to the Impreza/RR types.

At best it's a 'marketing' thing. But really has no bearing on the type of vehicle.

[Shakermaker]

300bhp/ton said:

I really have to ask, but where exactly has Piston Heads managed to dig up this nugget of total bulst with regards to the 2.2 Defender???

Piston Heads said:

some enthusiasts reckon it's actually too powerful for the Defender, making it less controllable

I mean WTF.... have you actually looked at the power output of the 2.2 and compared to say the 2.4 the Td5 or even a Tdi, let alone a 1980's 3.5 V8

Ah but if you read it the way I did, it says some "enthusiasts" have said it is too powerful.

Which based on that, means the type of people who begruded LR for ever daring to fit a heater blower motor, let alone air conditioning, and would rather the whole lot was still on an 88" chassis with a 1.6 litre engine.