RE: Honda Civic Type R (FK8): Driven
Discussion
Sounds really promising so far!
Looks wise, again just like the FK2, it'll look so much better in the flesh than in the Photos IMO and a more 'hardcore' version, Honda did a Mugen FK2 but they didn't release it as far as I'am aware, only as a Concept, so i wouldn't hold your breath.
Be good if they did obviously
How can Hot Hatches get better than this current/upcoming lot? This CTR, Megane, i30 N, just to name a few.
Looks wise, again just like the FK2, it'll look so much better in the flesh than in the Photos IMO and a more 'hardcore' version, Honda did a Mugen FK2 but they didn't release it as far as I'am aware, only as a Concept, so i wouldn't hold your breath.
Be good if they did obviously
How can Hot Hatches get better than this current/upcoming lot? This CTR, Megane, i30 N, just to name a few.
Shivas9K said:
Looks like the makings of a fantastic car.
I'm sure there will still be those that want a 4WD system and less agressive styling, but then I think they may be missing the point Honda is trying to make!
Good effort on making something original and I'm going to be interested on how this car ages when looking back in 5-10 years...
Those people go & buy a Golf GTI, I like the fact it's different but I'm not a fan of the looks on this newer model I quite liked the FK2's brashness saying that I like the newer exhaust setup & think that would have made the FK2 look less fussy & IMO a better, I still think I'd head Fords way to grab the ST & then visit Mountune for some choice (MR300 Kit Driveline Upgrade & big brake kit) upgradesI'm sure there will still be those that want a 4WD system and less agressive styling, but then I think they may be missing the point Honda is trying to make!
Good effort on making something original and I'm going to be interested on how this car ages when looking back in 5-10 years...
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Everyone said the previous generation (FK2) looked like a dogs dinner but I think it looks pretty decent. It's certainly got much better with time and I'm looking forward to potentially picking up a second hand bargain in a couple of years or so anyway.... This one I'm sure will be the same.
macky17 said:
Ahbefive said:
As far as I can tell to 60mph this car has only improved on a mk2 focus RS from 8 years ago (2009) by 0.2 of a second.
...and yet the civic would feel massively faster, annihilate the Ford in-gear and bury it on any sequence of corners It would however I should imagine be a fair bit quicker in the corners.
I don't want a car that looks like this for that price point. There will be buyers who do though, and good luck to them.
In a world where we have Golf Rs and GTIs, and Focus RSs and STs, there should be room once again for this flamboyant and aggressive Type R and a more discreet and softer but still capable 220-250bhp Type S.
If Honda make that, then I might be very interested for a daily driver.
In a world where we have Golf Rs and GTIs, and Focus RSs and STs, there should be room once again for this flamboyant and aggressive Type R and a more discreet and softer but still capable 220-250bhp Type S.
If Honda make that, then I might be very interested for a daily driver.
I'd take an fd2 and supercharge it. Or two fd2s.
Or anything other than this. I just don't get why they've gone down this route. The nsx, ek9, dc2, S2000 were all very clean designs that were never about outright numbers but did have something special about them...this just looks goping and doesn't raise the bar in an perceptible way that I've picked up from any road tests.
Want fwd, go GTi.
Want straight line numbers, go R.
Top speed is impressive... But who is going to try that out beyond a very long track straight...
Genuinely one of the ugliest cars of the current options... Gutted doesn't even come close.
Or anything other than this. I just don't get why they've gone down this route. The nsx, ek9, dc2, S2000 were all very clean designs that were never about outright numbers but did have something special about them...this just looks goping and doesn't raise the bar in an perceptible way that I've picked up from any road tests.
Want fwd, go GTi.
Want straight line numbers, go R.
Top speed is impressive... But who is going to try that out beyond a very long track straight...
Genuinely one of the ugliest cars of the current options... Gutted doesn't even come close.
Interesting. At first sight my thought was, WOW, that is rather nice looking. A hatch that isn't one of the ugly hard edged wedge shape things that infest our roads.
Then I see half of the posters agree with the article, that it is not good looking. Must be something to do with immaturity & brain washing I suppose.
Still Honda insist in these front drive things, after proving just how good they can be at rear drive cars. Pity. I guess I am going to be still waiting for something to replace my now aged S2000.
Then I see half of the posters agree with the article, that it is not good looking. Must be something to do with immaturity & brain washing I suppose.
Still Honda insist in these front drive things, after proving just how good they can be at rear drive cars. Pity. I guess I am going to be still waiting for something to replace my now aged S2000.
How big is that boot exactly?
Think that numb steering is partly to blame on those rediculously large 20" rims. Will help dry grip and sharpness, but numb the steering and make it more a handfull in the rain. Would probably put on some superlight 19" with PS4S tyres first thing, just as good in the dry and much better in the rain and more feel...
Think that numb steering is partly to blame on those rediculously large 20" rims. Will help dry grip and sharpness, but numb the steering and make it more a handfull in the rain. Would probably put on some superlight 19" with PS4S tyres first thing, just as good in the dry and much better in the rain and more feel...
Edited by Onehp on Tuesday 13th June 07:40
Ahbefive said:
macky17 said:
Ahbefive said:
As far as I can tell to 60mph this car has only improved on a mk2 focus RS from 8 years ago (2009) by 0.2 of a second.
...and yet the civic would feel massively faster, annihilate the Ford in-gear and bury it on any sequence of corners It would however I should imagine be a fair bit quicker in the corners.
Ed Straker said:
I love Honda, I really do.
And I like this.
But "perhaps the best hot hatch on sale??"
It wouldn't see which way an A45 went.
There comes a point when FWD and xxx bhp become incompatible - circa 300 I'd say.
Best is not the same as fastest in a straight line. On a dry track, the A45 is left behind as it will be approx 200kg more irl. And fwd can take more as long as the driver knows when and when not to deploy it. Bit like a very powerful rwd or bike... And I like this.
But "perhaps the best hot hatch on sale??"
It wouldn't see which way an A45 went.
There comes a point when FWD and xxx bhp become incompatible - circa 300 I'd say.
Edited by Onehp on Tuesday 13th June 20:09
Looks a lot better in these images than I expected. Good on Honda for taking (some) criticisms on board and improving on the previous Type R. I don't believe it being FWD is a negative, arguable the best hot hatch of the last crop was FWD (Megane). So what it is slower 0-60 than an A45/RS3/Golf R etc...Only sad gits are worried about the traffic light grand prix.
It will be interesting to see what happens to the values of the last Type R, looking around a good one can be had for about £23k, that's not bad...
It will be interesting to see what happens to the values of the last Type R, looking around a good one can be had for about £23k, that's not bad...
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