RE: Shed Of The Week: VW Golf Mk5
Discussion
daemon said:
J4CKO said:
With a weekend of elbow grease that could be quite a nice car, decent colour, the engine isnt too gutless, just needs its cartaracts sorting.
+1Nice that it has the black leather.
Granted this isn't the most exciting shed but a very good one.
And shouldn't be a total money pit like the more exciting sheds that you will spend more than the purchase price in 6 months maintenance
DrFeelAverage said:
Funny how divisive this shed is. Some people really like it, some people think its the worst thing ever. And then a small group who think the MK4 is better than the MK5. Better built probably, but better car?
Yep.I had a mk4 GT TDI a few years ago and even at 150,000 + miles the interior, even the sports seats, were in amazing shape. Mk4 very well built, and the 130hp TDi felt fast, but terrible handling.
culpz said:
Proper LSD or not, it's probably one of the most pointless engines to combine it with, surely?
Really? In my eyes for a city run-about there's nothing much wrong with a smallish car with a simple large-ish petrol engine. Plus it would work fine on open roads.I've been looking for something to replace my wife's 1.6 Clio and these days the choice often seems to be (a) tiny petrol (b) stinky clattery diesel or (c) over the top turbo nutter b
d.Not very exciting but it would get the job done.
IanCress said:
As for the reference to a LSD, it will be a 'virtual' LSD of the type that applies the brakes to a spinning wheel, rather than a mechanical diff.
I'm guessing the closest this will get to having a LSD is the mention of it in the ad. It won't have one, it'll have traction control like any other bog standard Golf, which this pretty much is. Not special, not that fast, and like a lot of the other FSI engined VW's, doesn't this one also have the self-destruct bug?BFleming said:
IanCress said:
As for the reference to a LSD, it will be a 'virtual' LSD of the type that applies the brakes to a spinning wheel, rather than a mechanical diff.
I'm guessing the closest this will get to having a LSD is the mention of it in the ad. It won't have one, it'll have traction control like any other bog standard Golf, which this pretty much is. Not special, not that fast, and like a lot of the other FSI engined VW's, doesn't this one also have the self-destruct bug?AC43 said:
culpz said:
Proper LSD or not, it's probably one of the most pointless engines to combine it with, surely?
Really? In my eyes for a city run-about there's nothing much wrong with a smallish car with a simple large-ish petrol engine. Plus it would work fine on open roads.I've been looking for something to replace my wife's 1.6 Clio and these days the choice often seems to be (a) tiny petrol (b) stinky clattery diesel or (c) over the top turbo nutter b
d.Not very exciting but it would get the job done.
Regarding the engine, i don't have an issue with that either. However, for the size of the engine, the performance isn't great and it won't be great on fuel either. So, you get all the downsides of a big engine but none of the upsides.
Takes a deep breath and prepares to be shot down, but " does not qualify for the warranty offer.."
What about the Consumer Rights Act 3015?
When you purchase a second hand car from a motor dealer, you enter into a legally binding contract. As the buyer you are entitled to expect that the car is fit for purpose, of satisfactory quality, and as described.
An older vehicle with high mileage will most likely not be of as good quality as that of a newer and lower mileage vehicle, but…
The vehicle should still be fit for use on the road and in a condition that reflects its price tag, age and mileage.
Trading Standards are your ‘go to’ source when confronted with issues relating to a used car you’ve bought from a dealership…Especially when they’re either refusing to assist you or are being generally unhelpful.
Trading Standards go on to say (Quote) “Traders must not mislead consumers by using phrases such as Sold as Seen or No Refunds”
Personally I avoid anyone who serves up that as a 'get out' clause, to my mind, 27yrs trading or not, it's not worth the risk.
Or am I wrong?
Anyhoo, I'm not a fan of this model, although SWMBO has had both a GT TDi and a GTi which are much more appealing in my mind (although they usually carry a price tag that is associated with that popularity...)
What about the Consumer Rights Act 3015?
When you purchase a second hand car from a motor dealer, you enter into a legally binding contract. As the buyer you are entitled to expect that the car is fit for purpose, of satisfactory quality, and as described.
An older vehicle with high mileage will most likely not be of as good quality as that of a newer and lower mileage vehicle, but…
The vehicle should still be fit for use on the road and in a condition that reflects its price tag, age and mileage.
Trading Standards are your ‘go to’ source when confronted with issues relating to a used car you’ve bought from a dealership…Especially when they’re either refusing to assist you or are being generally unhelpful.
Trading Standards go on to say (Quote) “Traders must not mislead consumers by using phrases such as Sold as Seen or No Refunds”
Personally I avoid anyone who serves up that as a 'get out' clause, to my mind, 27yrs trading or not, it's not worth the risk.
Or am I wrong?
Anyhoo, I'm not a fan of this model, although SWMBO has had both a GT TDi and a GTi which are much more appealing in my mind (although they usually carry a price tag that is associated with that popularity...)
DrFeelAverage said:
Funny how divisive this shed is. Some people really like it, some people think its the worst thing ever. And then a small group who think the MK4 is better than the MK5. Better built probably, but better car?
I know. The mk4 was and is a pretty terrible car. Mk5 was leagues ahead. This could just be the usual PH Golf bashing by some posters though.I can't understand all the love for the Mk4 either, it really wasn't very good, still isn't good and is getting worse with age.
Yeah, maybe the odd well looked after one will do millions of miles, but all I remember is dodgy 20v motors, leaky door seals, dodgy electrics, peeling interior plastics, poor fuel economy and blander than beige handling.
Yeah, maybe the odd well looked after one will do millions of miles, but all I remember is dodgy 20v motors, leaky door seals, dodgy electrics, peeling interior plastics, poor fuel economy and blander than beige handling.
Mrs FWDracer has a 1.4 Mk5 Golf. It is known as the "Teutonic German B'stad" and pisses its MOT every year - last year required its cataracts sorting. Cheap toothpaste substituted Autoglym. Who knew!. Heading towards 100K and feels run in now. Not sure about the commentary on build quality being lesser than Mk4, simply can't accept it.
So solid you'd be happy to put your first born in it, to learn to drive.
Our one is on sports suspension and 16" wheels, and whilst hardly the most thrilling FWD hatch, you simply cannot either lose it, nor lose your licence in it. Perfect first car.
So solid you'd be happy to put your first born in it, to learn to drive.
Our one is on sports suspension and 16" wheels, and whilst hardly the most thrilling FWD hatch, you simply cannot either lose it, nor lose your licence in it. Perfect first car.
It's funny how things change. When this was new an old Golf could still look quite smart whereas an old Escort would generally be seen being ragged around by some horrible little urchin and his mates all holding their cigarettes out of the window.
Nowadays I notice old Focuses being driven sedately by mature types and Mk5 Golfs being driven by horrible little urchins (still smoking and usually followed by a cloud of black soot).
Nowadays I notice old Focuses being driven sedately by mature types and Mk5 Golfs being driven by horrible little urchins (still smoking and usually followed by a cloud of black soot).
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