Auto cars with "hold" function on the brake
Discussion
Dog Star said:
djstevec said:
Only discovered this feature on my E-Class a few days ago...had it almost 8 months!!
Must read the owners manual....sometime....maybe...meh.
There's that thing where it parks itself as well - never got chance to use it or bother to read the manual. I'm on my second E class!Must read the owners manual....sometime....maybe...meh.
Give it a few years and this will be commonplace
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Monty Python said:
It appears to be only 5-series and above - my F30 doesn't have it. I think all have hill assist, which stops the car rolling back for a couple of seconds when you take your foot off the brake pedal.
I think all future G series will have EPB and therefore have auto hold. To have autohold you need the EPB with BMW....Anti-creep is not new, I had it on a 1966 3.4S Jaguar automatic back in the day.
I found out from a forum that my SLK has it and of course was delighted. It works in combination with the engine stopping in Eco mode.
I drive my wife's automatic Mazda CX3 quite a lot. It creeps like mad and doesn't have the Hold facility so I really miss it. Not only that but if you want the engine to stay off in Eco mode you have to keep the brake pressed really hard.
We have a Panda which has Hill Assist - I didn't know it had, until one day it told me that "Hill Assist is not available". As an old-school driver who knows how to hill-start, I disdain it anyway.
I found out from a forum that my SLK has it and of course was delighted. It works in combination with the engine stopping in Eco mode.
I drive my wife's automatic Mazda CX3 quite a lot. It creeps like mad and doesn't have the Hold facility so I really miss it. Not only that but if you want the engine to stay off in Eco mode you have to keep the brake pressed really hard.
We have a Panda which has Hill Assist - I didn't know it had, until one day it told me that "Hill Assist is not available". As an old-school driver who knows how to hill-start, I disdain it anyway.
Krikkit said:
They all do, but his point was that now that handbrakes can't be engaged/disengaged in < 3-4s I would expect lots of cars to come with it.
Electronic parking brakes and hold modes are different - that was my point. I have driven passats that had an automatic parking brake, not a hold feature using the hydraulic brakes - a similar end effect to what the OP describes but a completely different system to the Mercedes hold feature OP is talking about.It's like comparing putting a brick on the throttle to cruise control.
In Audi it's called Auto Park and you can switch it on/off by the small button below electronic parking brake. Unfortunately it's not as good as in Mercedes. In Mercedes, Hold function keeps your engine off if you have start/stop. In Audi, removing the foot from the brake, switches on engine even with Auto Park on. So when I'm stuck in traffic in Audi, I still have to keep my foot on a brake anyway, unless I want to waste petrol.
When you do a lot of commuting in heavy traffic or through the city, Hold is very useful.
When you do a lot of commuting in heavy traffic or through the city, Hold is very useful.
PenelopaPitstop said:
In Audi it's called Auto Park and you can switch it on/off by the small button below electronic parking brake. Unfortunately it's not as good as in Mercedes. In Mercedes, Hold function keeps your engine off if you have start/stop. In Audi, removing the foot from the brake, switches on engine even with Auto Park on. So when I'm stuck in traffic in Audi, I still have to keep my foot on a brake anyway, unless I want to waste petrol.
When you do a lot of commuting in heavy traffic or through the city, Hold is very useful.
In my Audi it was called hold assist and didn't restart the engine when you took your foot off the brake.When you do a lot of commuting in heavy traffic or through the city, Hold is very useful.
Riley Blue said:
Very common but very annoying when the brake lights stay on with what is effectually the hand brake applied.
Never used to on VWs but they changed it a couple of years ago. I never use it as I don't like the idea of sitting at the back of queues with brake lights off and people behind can react to them going off at roundabouts. Hold is a bit pointless in an auto anyway.Got on my 61 plate manual Leon, although it only holds for about a second before it disengages. Presumably to give you just enough time to get your foot from the brake to the throttle. My XF had it too, although that would disengage when you pulled away rather than a set time (I think).
romeogolf said:
Mercedes have a hold function on the brake pedal in their cars with an auto transmission. Essentially when you come to a stop a 'firm press' of the pedal holds the brakes when you remove your foot from the pedal. Brake lights remain on and a 'hold' logo appears on the instrument cluster. To release it, another firm press of the brake or simply pressing the accelerator turns the function off.
Do any other manufacturers provide this function on their autos?
My 2003 7 series had this....Nothing new Do any other manufacturers provide this function on their autos?
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