Auto cars with "hold" function on the brake

Auto cars with "hold" function on the brake

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wack

2,103 posts

208 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Dog Star said:
djstevec said:
Only discovered this feature on my E-Class a few days ago...had it almost 8 months!! boxedin

Must read the owners manual....sometime....maybe...meh.
There's that thing where it parks itself as well - never got chance to use it or bother to read the manual. I'm on my second E class!
all these modern gadgets are making their way through the manufacturers

Give it a few years and this will be commonplace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXls4cdEv7c

Ninja59

3,691 posts

114 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Monty Python said:
It appears to be only 5-series and above - my F30 doesn't have it. I think all have hill assist, which stops the car rolling back for a couple of seconds when you take your foot off the brake pedal.
I think all future G series will have EPB and therefore have auto hold. To have autohold you need the EPB with BMW....

Coolbanana

4,417 posts

202 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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My Golf has it. It is a button behind the electronic brake. I use it occasionally.

SirTK

210 posts

137 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Anti-creep is not new, I had it on a 1966 3.4S Jaguar automatic back in the day.

I found out from a forum that my SLK has it and of course was delighted. It works in combination with the engine stopping in Eco mode.

I drive my wife's automatic Mazda CX3 quite a lot. It creeps like mad and doesn't have the Hold facility so I really miss it. Not only that but if you want the engine to stay off in Eco mode you have to keep the brake pressed really hard.

We have a Panda which has Hill Assist - I didn't know it had, until one day it told me that "Hill Assist is not available". As an old-school driver who knows how to hill-start, I disdain it anyway.

donkmeister

8,368 posts

102 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Krikkit said:
They all do, but his point was that now that handbrakes can't be engaged/disengaged in < 3-4s I would expect lots of cars to come with it.
Electronic parking brakes and hold modes are different - that was my point. I have driven passats that had an automatic parking brake, not a hold feature using the hydraulic brakes - a similar end effect to what the OP describes but a completely different system to the Mercedes hold feature OP is talking about.
It's like comparing putting a brick on the throttle to cruise control.

romeogolf

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2,056 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Yeah, a few of you are talking about hill assist, functions which stop you rolling BACK on a hill.

What I'm asking about is the function which holds the brakes on any gradient, even on a flat area, to stop the car creeping forward in gear.

PenelopaPitstop

2,175 posts

135 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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In Audi it's called Auto Park and you can switch it on/off by the small button below electronic parking brake. Unfortunately it's not as good as in Mercedes. In Mercedes, Hold function keeps your engine off if you have start/stop. In Audi, removing the foot from the brake, switches on engine even with Auto Park on. So when I'm stuck in traffic in Audi, I still have to keep my foot on a brake anyway, unless I want to waste petrol.

When you do a lot of commuting in heavy traffic or through the city, Hold is very useful.

Flibble

6,477 posts

183 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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PenelopaPitstop said:
In Audi it's called Auto Park and you can switch it on/off by the small button below electronic parking brake. Unfortunately it's not as good as in Mercedes. In Mercedes, Hold function keeps your engine off if you have start/stop. In Audi, removing the foot from the brake, switches on engine even with Auto Park on. So when I'm stuck in traffic in Audi, I still have to keep my foot on a brake anyway, unless I want to waste petrol.

When you do a lot of commuting in heavy traffic or through the city, Hold is very useful.
In my Audi it was called hold assist and didn't restart the engine when you took your foot off the brake.

Dblue

3,261 posts

202 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Its fitted to all Mk7 Golfs, and very good it is too.

One of these features you never thought you needed until you have it - and if like me you jump from car to car you find yourself forgetting to pull on the handbrake and rolling back in your other cars!

Sheepshanks

33,090 posts

121 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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Riley Blue said:
Very common but very annoying when the brake lights stay on with what is effectually the hand brake applied.
Never used to on VWs but they changed it a couple of years ago. I never use it as I don't like the idea of sitting at the back of queues with brake lights off and people behind can react to them going off at roundabouts. Hold is a bit pointless in an auto anyway.

Bristol spark

4,383 posts

185 months

Thursday 29th June 2017
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My manual transit has similar system.

Push brake pedal hard when on a hill, brakes stay on for a few seconds after release brake pedal.

My old Alfa 158 had it as well (some of the time!)

TonyG2003

257 posts

94 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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3 of the 4 cars have it (two Mercs and Porsche). Just push the brake a little harder and "hold". Useful in stop start traffic. A pain/first world problem when you forget the 4th car doesn't.

eliot

11,499 posts

256 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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My e65 bmw has it and I really like it. Never knew it left the brake lights on though - one of reasons I used it was so I could take my foot of the brake and turn the lights off.
Going to check it later.

Crosswise

410 posts

188 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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I had it on a 2016 MAN, it was a switch on the dash which said HOLD, I very rarely used it, but I suppose it would make hill starts a little easier. I only used it when I knew I would be stopped for a short time and needed to pull away quickly, I wouldn't miss it if it wasn't there.

Antony Moxey

8,189 posts

221 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Got on my 61 plate manual Leon, although it only holds for about a second before it disengages. Presumably to give you just enough time to get your foot from the brake to the throttle. My XF had it too, although that would disengage when you pulled away rather than a set time (I think).

RicksAlfas

13,432 posts

246 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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Ninja59 said:
I think people are getting confused by "hill assist" and "Auto Hold".
I think they still are!


youngricharduk

235 posts

87 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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RicksAlfas said:
Ninja59 said:
I think people are getting confused by "hill assist" and "Auto Hold".
I think they still are!
I've got hill assist on my qashqai and Auto hold on my Touareg

uuf361

3,154 posts

224 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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It's on my Golf and use it frequently on every journey - it's left activated permanently, think it's a good feature, but I also like electronic handbrakes in general too...

E65Ross

35,175 posts

214 months

Friday 30th June 2017
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romeogolf said:
Mercedes have a hold function on the brake pedal in their cars with an auto transmission. Essentially when you come to a stop a 'firm press' of the pedal holds the brakes when you remove your foot from the pedal. Brake lights remain on and a 'hold' logo appears on the instrument cluster. To release it, another firm press of the brake or simply pressing the accelerator turns the function off.

Do any other manufacturers provide this function on their autos?
My 2003 7 series had this....Nothing new smile

Mikesl1

1 posts

41 months

Sunday 3rd January 2021
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Hi, my wife’s Toyota CHR has it and it is great
Interestingly my I-Pace does not have it, BUT, if you drive on adaptive cruise control, it automatically brakes and holds in traffic, and you just accelerate when the car in front moves