RE: Hennessey Venom F5: Built for 300mph

RE: Hennessey Venom F5: Built for 300mph

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RB Will

9,673 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Uppercut said:
My first thought was tyres. 300mph tyres don't exist yet as far as I'm aware.
Drag cars have been running over 300mph for ages so the tech must be there. the trick is to make it a tyre tat can do it repeatedly and do corners and 2000 road miles too.

AmosMoses

4,042 posts

166 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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RB Will said:
Uppercut said:
My first thought was tyres. 300mph tyres don't exist yet as far as I'm aware.
Drag cars have been running over 300mph for ages so the tech must be there. the trick is to make it a tyre tat can do it repeatedly and do corners and 2000 road miles too.
It should be running the same tyres as the Chiron from what i have read. However due to this being lighter John believes they can last to 300mph

Paddy78

208 posts

147 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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A beautiful car that is pushing the boundaries of production car performance... and still it get a load of hate from people on here. Some people must drive some very nice cars indeed if you fail to be impressed by this.

Utterly amazing in every respect. smile

CraigyMc

16,492 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Paddy78 said:
A beautiful car that is pushing the boundaries of production car performance... and still it get a load of hate from people on here. Some people must drive some very nice cars indeed if you fail to be impressed by this.

Utterly amazing in every respect. smile
It's not the car people dislike, it's the guy with his name on the door of the building.

E65Ross

35,152 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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TurboHatchback said:
1600bhp going through just the rear wheels in a car weighing less than a family hatchback? That must be verging on undriveable, one sneeze or itchy foot at 70mph and you'd be parked backwards in a tree before you knew what had happened.
Not necessarily. Depends on the pedal travel and calibration.

WCZ

10,559 posts

195 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Paddy78 said:
A beautiful car that is pushing the boundaries of production car performance... and still it get a load of hate from people on here. Some people must drive some very nice cars indeed if you fail to be impressed by this.

Utterly amazing in every respect. smile
much more impressed by the Chiron tbh
good luck if you expect the Venom F5 to have any semblance of reliability too
that and it won't go 300mph

PhantomPH

4,043 posts

226 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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To be absolutely honest tho, does it really matter if it can't do 300mph? It's not like any of the prospective owners are going to be hitting that on their way to Cars and Coffee. 1,600hp, decent looks and (regardless of hitting the target) an utterly unimaginable top speed...I think if I were an owner I'd be ok with it even if it only managed 280mph. wink

HappyMidget

6,788 posts

116 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I imagine that if PH had been around when the XJ220 et all had been aiming for the 200+ mark that the conversations would have been similar to what we see here biggrin

E65Ross

35,152 posts

213 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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PhantomPH said:
To be absolutely honest tho, does it really matter if it can't do 300mph? It's not like any of the prospective owners are going to be hitting that on their way to Cars and Coffee. 1,600hp, decent looks and (regardless of hitting the target) an utterly unimaginable top speed...I think if I were an owner I'd be ok with it even if it only managed 280mph. wink
That's not the point though is it. It's about the fact it CAN do that.

J4CKO

41,724 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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TurboHatchback said:
1600bhp going through just the rear wheels in a car weighing less than a family hatchback? That must be verging on undriveable, one sneeze or itchy foot at 70mph and you'd be parked backwards in a tree before you knew what had happened.
I suppose it depends mainly on tyres and road surface, the Chiron will deploy most of its power regardless of weather where this may be quicker, it will need very grippy tyres and a bone dry runway, the Chiron is a thoroughly tested and developed product that can be used in the real world, I expect this may be a little more like hard work and probably wont have the same level of safeguards a Chiron does.

Not doubting the achievement, sure it is excellent but it cant have gone through he same development process as the Bugatti.

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

163 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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So it's an LS with big twins?

Paracetamol

4,226 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Its amazing that with what little professionalism and integrity Hennessy has as a firm, it really does a great job on these flagship cars.

thegreenhell

15,571 posts

220 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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TurboHatchback said:
1600bhp going through just the rear wheels in a car weighing less than a family hatchback? That must be verging on undriveable, one sneeze or itchy foot at 70mph and you'd be parked backwards in a tree before you knew what had happened.
If it's like the previous Venom GT it will have variable boost maps per gear, so it won't give full boost until you're in something like fourth gear. It may only have something like 1000 bhp in first gear. Surely even your gran could handle that? rotate

cookie1600

2,146 posts

162 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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E65Ross said:
It's about the fact it CAN do that.
Errrr, not yet though of course, as the first paragraph states: "to attempt a number of speed records" (future tense). It may have some computer predictions that have been run that say it might, but until it does it against a calibrated device in the real world, it's all PR horse manure and backslapping in the bar at SEMA.

Let's see Hennessey Performance put it down the VAG test strip against the Chiron, for pink slips.



AWG

855 posts

157 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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I for one feel excited by these stories. As i'm sure those hearing of the XJ220 and F40 did back in the day.
I wish the firm every success and applaud them for pushing the limits.

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Jakdaw

291 posts

211 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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article said:
For the record, the new Bugatti Chiron managed 13.1 seconds and 32.6 seconds, respectively
No it didn't. According to the article you linked to the Chiron's 0->400->0 took 41.96 seconds.

DiscoColin

3,328 posts

215 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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AmosMoses said:
RB Will said:
Uppercut said:
My first thought was tyres. 300mph tyres don't exist yet as far as I'm aware.
Drag cars have been running over 300mph for ages so the tech must be there. the trick is to make it a tyre tat can do it repeatedly and do corners and 2000 road miles too.
It should be running the same tyres as the Chiron from what i have read. However due to this being lighter John believes they can last to 300mph
Until Michelin says that they are safe to use at 300mph, they are not safe to use at 300mph. The Chiron's top speed is actually constrained by what the Michelin aerospace dyno says about the tyres at the moment, ergo anybody claiming to have a car that goes faster than the Bug is actually putting their customers at risk.

Drag tyres are not relevant to the discussion. Look at the tyres for a 300mph dragster (huge, slick and not anything like road legal in any way, shape or form). Now look at the Hennessey. No - that isn't going to happen is it. There will not be a 300mph road car until there are tyres for one, and currently there aren't, which makes the whole marketing spin of it all somewhat silly really doesn't it.

CraigyMc

16,492 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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Anyone else looking at that "car" and wondering why it doesn't have a fuel filler cap (instead just has a black plate) and has completely black opaque windshield? That's not a car, that's a styling model.

I wonder what the car will actually look like.

irocfan

40,652 posts

191 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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WCZ said:
Paddy78 said:
A beautiful car that is pushing the boundaries of production car performance... and still it get a load of hate from people on here. Some people must drive some very nice cars indeed if you fail to be impressed by this.

Utterly amazing in every respect. smile
much more impressed by the Chiron tbh
good luck if you expect the Venom F5 to have any semblance of reliability too
that and it won't go 300mph
really??? The Chiron/Veyron are stunning for sure but have been developed with, to all intents and purposes, an open cheque-book. This is up there with them, in outright performance terms, at the top of the treet for the cost of a pub-lunch - IMO that is far more amazing

Todd Bonzalez

2,552 posts

163 months

Thursday 2nd November 2017
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irocfan said:
really??? The Chiron/Veyron are stunning for sure but have been developed with, to all intents and purposes, an open cheque-book. This is up there with them, in outright performance terms, at the top of the treet for the cost of a pub-lunch - IMO that is far more amazing
It's £1.4M ?

Also there are lots of companies that will make you something this quick. There's a 300mph Ford GT that achieved 295 within 1 mile. Underground Racing's Lambo stuff will probably do it.

I've friends who run boosted LSs around these numbers. It's seriously not impressive. ESPECIALLY for the money.

Just imo.