RE: Golf R Performance Pack in the UK!

[nickfrog]

Onehp said:

Someone truly interested in the drive will know 18" do a better allround job.

Indeed but not if the calipers foul the 18' wheels.

[stephen-t860q]

Why is the estate faster at top speed? Would have thought the weight would make it slightly slower.

[Davo456gt]

stephen-t860q said:

Why is the estate faster at top speed? Would have thought the weight would make it slightly slower.

weight impacts acceleration more, aerodynamics impact top speed more

[ZX10R NIN]

moffat said:

£3k for a 'performance' exhaust from VW is a joke when you can get a similar switchable option from BMW and Mercedes for £1k or less. If you've got a 40i BMW you can get a full M Performance sports exhaust with a warranted remap for £1800 or less including fitting.

Yes it's an Akra, but the differences are minimal.

BMW/Mercedes don't sell Titanium Exhaust systems for 1k

[jonosterman]

Or you could forego the PP, get the lighter better looking (IMHO) Pretorias, and then pay VW £500 to replace the front discs and pads with the Clubsport S set up (which I believe is the same as the PP).

Having ruined my brakes over a few trackdays, my R is in for the Clubsport S upgrade tomorrow...

[stephen-t860q]

Why is the estate faster at top speed? Would have thought the weight would make it slightly slower.

[nickfrog]

jonosterman said:

Or you could forego the PP, get the lighter better looking (IMHO) Pretorias, and then pay VW £500 to replace the front discs and pads with the Clubsport S set up (which I believe is the same as the PP).

Having ruined my brakes over a few trackdays, my R is in for the Clubsport S upgrade tomorrow...

Get them to put some RBF600 while they're at it. Bound to be the weakest link.

[jonosterman]

nickfrog said:

Get them to put some RBF600 while they're at it. Bound to be the weakest link.

Good idea!

No track days planned until next year, but I'll be looking at brake fluid and possibly braided lines beforehand.

[Rawwr]

stephen-t860q said:

Why is the estate faster at top speed? Would have thought the weight would make it slightly slower.

Aero, I imagine.

[nickfrog]

jonosterman said:

nickfrog said:

Get them to put some RBF600 while they're at it. Bound to be the weakest link.

Good idea!

No track days planned until next year, but I'll be looking at brake fluid and possibly braided lines beforehand.

I wouldn't bother with lines. The ones you have are probably internally braided anyway, despite looking like rubber.

[Vocht]

Very nice but I wish they offered the bucket seats you can seem to get in the euro cars. Would make it much more special!

[culpz]

So, it's basically the VW equivalent to BMW's M Performance upgrades i.e. good quality (i assume) but expensive.

[TheTyreAbuser]

Hmm, nah. I mean, tempted by the exhaust maybe, but at that price I could resurrect my old VW from it's rusty grave and have way more fun.
Kinda glad I just stuck with the manual with the forged 19" wheels.
Still, nice to have a performance pack for something other than the GTI.

[andrewparker]

Onehp said:

Carl_Manchester said:

The big question for me on this PP is whether you can buy the pack with the pretoria wheels but without the spielberg alloys.

Unless I am mistaken, the press pictures, including the Frankfurt show car have the (lighter weight?) pretorias fitted, not the spielbergs.

or more to the point, why would VW make noise about the weight loss on the PP brakes if the spielberg wheels are heavier than the pretorias ?

for those with OCD the speilberg spokes also face backwards on the drivers side and forwards on the passenger side.

Good points. Someone truly interested in the drive will know 18" do a better allround job. And there VW has forged rims from the base Clubsport, Belvedere they are called and they reportedly weigh in under 8kg a piece. Look great too imho. Most people splurge for the 19" still. Oh well.

I guess Hans-Joachim Stuck was talking out his arse when he said it performed best on the 19" Pretoria wheels...

[JMF894]

playalistic said:

CS Garth said:

Yes but what difference do they make to the monthlies......

Slow clap.

I've never understood the cynicism directed towards the Golf R in particular regarding lease deals etc. If it allows more people access to what they want that can't be a bad thing can it? It's not as if we're all being forced to have one for crissakes.



Because all you Type R /RS owners buy your cars for cash I suppose?

Edited by JMF894 on Thursday 9th November 11:57

[andrewparker]

JMF894 said:

I've never understood the cynicism directed towards the Golf R in particular regarding lease deals etc. If it allows more people access to what they want that can't be a bad thing can it? It's not as if we're all being forced to have one for crissakes.



Because all you Type R /RS owners buy your cars for cash I suppose?

Edited by JMF894 on Thursday 9th November 11:57

Best ignored.

[JMF894]

stephen-t860q said:

Why is the estate faster at top speed? Would have thought the weight would make it slightly slower.

Quite common with estates I believe (remember Fabia vRS estate) something to do with less drag from the rear end but someone may come along and correct me.

[Alex_6n2]

Golf R is definitely faster than a Lexus LFA now!

[Onehp]

andrewparker said:

Onehp said:

Carl_Manchester said:

The big question for me on this PP is whether you can buy the pack with the pretoria wheels but without the spielberg alloys.

Unless I am mistaken, the press pictures, including the Frankfurt show car have the (lighter weight?) pretorias fitted, not the spielbergs.

or more to the point, why would VW make noise about the weight loss on the PP brakes if the spielberg wheels are heavier than the pretorias ?

for those with OCD the speilberg spokes also face backwards on the drivers side and forwards on the passenger side.

Good points. Someone truly interested in the drive will know 18" do a better allround job. And there VW has forged rims from the base Clubsport, Belvedere they are called and they reportedly weigh in under 8kg a piece. Look great too imho. Most people splurge for the 19" still. Oh well.

I guess Hans-Joachim Stuck was talking out his arse when he said it performed best on the 19" Pretoria wheels...

No, 19" Cup 2 do perform the best. On track. In the dry. You missed the 'allround' part, and with that I mean proper driving on real roads with potholes, ruts, and more than occasionally that stuff from the sky that makes the roads more slippery.

[Onehp]

nickfrog said:

Onehp said:

Someone truly interested in the drive will know 18" do a better allround job.

Indeed but not if the calipers foul the 18' wheels.

Most of the time, I see calipers bathing in air on most big wheeled cars... If the PP brakes are the same as the clubsport ones, and the clubsport has forged 18"...

Got the Cupra PP/sub8 whatever Brembo brakes, there it's harder to find a 18" that fits...