RE: BMW 8 Series draws nearer
Discussion
ogrodz said:
I am indeed guilty of whinging - but its only because I am a fan of BMW over the ages and I can't stand the current designs. I am longing for something beautiful again. I have owned E30's in all guises - 3 door, 5 door, estate, convertible, and this is my previous 635CSI - the Shark, wonderful!
Give me something like this - PLEASE....
The Z8 and the E24 are both classics. Beautiful cars.Give me something like this - PLEASE....
Such originality and uniqueness in design become less and less likely from mainstream manufacturers like BMW however. Slavery to the wind-tunnel and minimising drag co-efficiencies preclude anything which segues too far from the standard aerodymically-efficient shape on which all modern cars are now built in this sector. They all look a bit 'samey' because of it.
So I think your quest will be in vain, unfortunately.
Edited by Tim bo on Thursday 21st December 14:27
E65Ross said:
Not if the suspension is tuned to cope.
Rolls Royce Phantom has absolutely massive wheels and that seems to ride pretty well.
The Phantom wheel may be massive but the tyres have relatively generous sidewalls for the 21st century, something like 60-65mm. The wheels fitted to the car in the photo above look much lower profile, more in the region of 40-50mm which is more typical for cars in that segment.Rolls Royce Phantom has absolutely massive wheels and that seems to ride pretty well.
You're right though, there is no absolute that says large wheels=bad ride, it's just harder (i.e. more expensive) to maintain comfort with less sidewall to rely on to provide cushioning. You need more expensive damping, suspension etc. to mitigate the inevitable loss of suppleness.
givablondabone said:
It looks mahoosive but I guess we all need to wait until until the wraps are off the finished article before judging.
Shock horror, rival for big GT cars is..... Big..the last 8 series was based on the 7 series so was a very big car, too! Certainly for the time.You seem surprised about this? It wouldn't be a good rival to something like a Bentley Continental GT if it were the size of a Smart car, would it.
BlackLabel said:
Looking forward to seeing how the GC turns out. The 6 series GC was a lovely looking car.
I don’t think they will do a GC version of this, the 6GT is a rebadged 5GT now and I think that’s it! If it’s true I think it’s a shocking decision, I’m a huge BMW fan however I don’t think a big bloated S-Coupe rival suits the brand. If I’m spending 100 + grand on a luxury coupe, Id rather get a Benz.
loudlashadjuster said:
E65Ross said:
Not if the suspension is tuned to cope.
Rolls Royce Phantom has absolutely massive wheels and that seems to ride pretty well.
The Phantom wheel may be massive but the tyres have relatively generous sidewalls for the 21st century, something like 60-65mm. The wheels fitted to the car in the photo above look much lower profile, more in the region of 40-50mm which is more typical for cars in that segment.Rolls Royce Phantom has absolutely massive wheels and that seems to ride pretty well.
Edited by Wills2 on Thursday 21st December 21:05
dxg said:
As implied above, the best thing about the concept was the hint of the old shark nose style in the albeit massive grille.
The camo'd car suggests this is gone. Which is a massive loss, imho...
BMW concepts are traditionally very similar to the concepts, so I'd be surprised if it doesn't look like the concept. The camo'd car suggests this is gone. Which is a massive loss, imho...
Wills2 said:
It's an aspect ratio not a mm measurement, Phantom 21" rear tyres are 285/45 which are 128.25mm in height, the ones on the 8 series are probably 295/35 around 103mm
You may not realise it but you are agreeing with me.loudlashadjuster said:
The Phantom wheel may be massive but the tyres have relatively generous sidewalls for the 21st century, something like 60-65mm. The wheels fitted to the car in the photo above look much lower profile, more in the region of 40-50mm which is more typical for cars in that segment.
Where w is the tyre width and p the profile expressed as a percentage of that width, p/2 describes the effective tyre component of the rolling radius, r. Hence, for a tyre width of 285 mm and a profile of 45, giving an overall profile of 128.5 mm, the nominal effective sidewall of such a tyre would be approximately 64.125 mm.Which, my calculator assures me, is between 60 and 65 mm.
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