Car stolen and my experience

Car stolen and my experience

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TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Yipper said:
As said many times before, the key to stopping home-invasion car-thefts is to have at least 3 strongly-locked doors between the car and the keys
There's nowhere at all in this house that's a minimum of three doors (lockable or unlockable) from the outside.

Shaw Tarse

31,544 posts

204 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Yipper said:
As said many times before, the key to stopping home-invasion car-thefts is to have at least 3 strongly-locked doors between the car and the keys (Faraday cage if keyless).

Lock the driveway gates, lock the backdoor, lock the frontdoor, lock the living room, lock the kitchen, lock the hallway, lock the stairs, lock the bedrooms, lock the windows. Have smoke-alarms and an escape plan for fire.

Think like a castle, not a house.

Locking internal doors stops these crimes by 80-100%.
WTF do you mean about strongly locked doors?

MDMA .

8,971 posts

102 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Shaw Tarse said:
WTF do you mean about strongly locked doors?
You know, strongly. Not like weakly.

Gavia

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7,627 posts

92 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Good point about the windows / doors. I’ve got a bit of work to do to sort that fully, but funds aren’t limitless and I’m trying to make the car so obviously secure that it’s not worth anyone trying anymore.

Ironically I’ve been working out in my head how I’d play it next time and how to dominate the dog leg staircase hehe

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Sorry to hear Loon.


All the best and don't let them put you off enjoying your newly ordered M4

beer


OddCat

2,583 posts

172 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Am really sorry to hear about your experience. Its a really horrible and frightening. Your M4 was lovely looking motor. I hope you get over it quickly -although you will inevitably be on edge for a while which is entirely natural.

We recently fitted anti snap lock barrels to our doors. So easy to order, and fit (5 minutes), that everyone should do it.

Palmers

478 posts

112 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Just curious but i would be interested to know if any of these thefts involving a break in to obtain keys, had a dog.

Wonder if a naff of GS or Doberman / similar would deter?!

Gavia

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7,627 posts

92 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Palmers said:
Just curious but i would be interested to know if any of these thefts involving a break in to obtain keys, had a dog.

Wonder if a naff of GS or Doberman / similar would deter?!
I’ve not got a dog as my lifestyle wouldn’t suit one, but many friends have. A dog isn’t a security tool, it’s a pet that’s more of a family member. If these scrotes have scoped the area, then they’ll know you’ve got a dog and what they’ll do to one doesn’t bear thinking about. Cars are insured and easily replaced, a member of the family isn’t, even if canine.

Palmers

478 posts

112 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Gavia said:
Palmers said:
Just curious but i would be interested to know if any of these thefts involving a break in to obtain keys, had a dog.

Wonder if a naff of GS or Doberman / similar would deter?!
I’ve not got a dog as my lifestyle wouldn’t suit one, but many friends have. A dog isn’t a security tool, it’s a pet that’s more of a family member. If these scrotes have scoped the area, then they’ll know you’ve got a dog and what they’ll do to one doesn’t bear thinking about. Cars are insured and easily replaced, a member of the family isn’t, even if canine.
I used to have a beloved canine so i know they are a member of the family.

What i meant was i wonder if they would leave because of a dog. Do they scope houses beforehand? Or just see the car and chance it.

Dont forget dogs also become very protective over their home and owners. My old staff cross chased off s rummaging through a skip on our drive. Didnt even know they were there.

curlie467

7,650 posts

202 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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I'd be more worried about an angry naked Gav running towards me than a poodle!
The thieves are probably lucky you didn't get hold of them!

Gavia

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7,627 posts

92 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Palmers said:
I used to have a beloved canine so i know they are a member of the family.

What i meant was i wonder if they would leave because of a dog. Do they scope houses beforehand? Or just see the car and chance it.

Dont forget dogs also become very protective over their home and owners. My old staff cross chased off s rummaging through a skip on our drive. Didnt even know they were there.
They definitely scope. I’ve been away for a few months and only just got back. The assumption was that they were waiting for me to return so that they knew the keys were in the house.

curlie467 said:
I'd be more worried about an angry naked Gav running towards me than a poodle!
The thieves are probably lucky you didn't get hold of them!
Haha, I scare myself when I look in the mirror nowadays.

MuscleSaloon

1,557 posts

176 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Any options for garaging so the car is out of sight when possible OP ?

steve-5snwi

8,713 posts

94 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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I thought most M4's had trackers fitted but not activated, in fact a lot of the 4 series i've seen have them listed in the iDrive menu.

Good luck with the next one, I hope you have ticked the leather dash option.

CaptainMorgan

1,454 posts

160 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Thanks for posting, it's decent of you to try and help the rest of us defend our possessions from these pieces of st that are out there and sorry you've had this experience, it's not nice at all.

Question regarding the Autowatch Ghost. As you didn't have keyless, what advantage will it offer over just putting the keys under your mattress? Everyone raves about the system like it's a foolproof way to stop the car being taken but all it does it make them come for you to either start it or give them the pin to start it. Personally I'm not interested in the confrontation, but if I were up for taking them on, keeping the keys with me would have the same result without the extra cost of the system.

Anyway, nice one for not letting them get you down and getting another one, hopefully with the additional security you'll be alright.

With regards to someone saying to look every door in the house, while thats a bit extreme I reckon it's certainly an advantage to have a porch then another locked door, ideally with an alarm sensor in that room too.

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Yipper said:
As said many times before, the key to stopping home-invasion car-thefts is to have at least 3 strongly-locked doors between the car and the keys (Faraday cage if keyless).

Lock the driveway gates, lock the backdoor, lock the frontdoor, lock the living room, lock the kitchen, lock the hallway, lock the stairs, lock the bedrooms, lock the windows. Have smoke-alarms and an escape plan for fire.

Think like a castle, not a house.

Locking internal doors stops these crimes by 80-100%.
you do know we live in Britain and most people would like to live their lives as though theyre not living in Colditz?

ETA Yipper lol

Gavia

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7,627 posts

92 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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MuscleSaloon said:
Any options for garaging so the car is out of sight when possible OP ?
Not really, as with all modernish houses, the garage simply isn’t big enough to get the car in and be able to get out of it. My PH standard double garage disappeared (along with the house) following my divorce and houses around here, with a double, mean me getting a house that would be way bigger than I’ll ever need (5 bed minimum) and the council tax on that as well as other running costs would see me in a sensible car quicker than any thief could smile


steve-5snwi said:
I thought most M4's had trackers fitted but not activated, in fact a lot of the 4 series i've seen have them listed in the iDrive menu.

Good luck with the next one, I hope you have ticked the leather dash option.
I keep hearing this, but I’m not sales guy was keen to talk me out of buying one last time round, despite the £600 burning a hole in my pocket, a new acquaintance, who fits them for a living, hasn’t mentioned them already being fitted and my ex works for BMW and oversaw the fit on my previous cars.

I’m sure if there’s was one on them BMW would be keen to activate it if only for the police’s benefit, but nothing yet.

I think there’s is some basic tracking data held in the ECU that can be accessed remotely, but that hasn’t provided any info to find the car.

CaptainMorgan said:
Thanks for posting, it's decent of you to try and help the rest of us defend our possessions from these pieces of st that are out there and sorry you've had this experience, it's not nice at all.

Question regarding the Autowatch Ghost. As you didn't have keyless, what advantage will it offer over just putting the keys under your mattress? Everyone raves about the system like it's a foolproof way to stop the car being taken but all it does it make them come for you to either start it or give them the pin to start it. Personally I'm not interested in the confrontation, but if I were up for taking them on, keeping the keys with me would have the same result without the extra cost of the system.

Anyway, nice one for not letting them get you down and getting another one, hopefully with the additional security you'll be alright.

With regards to someone saying to look every door in the house, while thats a bit extreme I reckon it's certainly an advantage to have a porch then another locked door, ideally with an alarm sensor in that room too.
I’m no hard man, so I won’t welcome the confrontation either, but quite fancy making it tricky for them if they try again. The house alarm (connected to the provider) will hopefully scare them off along with everything else that’s in place. If it comes to it, then I guess it won’t be worth much to me, but it’ll just make it ever more annoying. Apparentlythe Cat 5 tracker I’m having fitted has remote immobilisation too, so even if they get away with it, once it’s turned off then it can’t be restarted.

I’m consodering upgrading a couple of critical internal doors too, so if they get in the house, they will struggle to get out of the room they’re in.

SlimJim16v

5,734 posts

144 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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How about one of those devices that fills your car/house with harmless smoke?

A naked man wearing a luminous Jason or Michael mask and brandishing a machete appearing out of it would probably be priceless.

Gavia

Original Poster:

7,627 posts

92 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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SlimJim16v said:
How about one of those devices that fills your car/house with harmless smoke?

A naked man wearing a luminous Jason or Michael mask and brandishing a machete appearing out of it would probably be priceless.
Cool, not sure I could pull it off though (ooer, especially as naked). Are there any fat serial killer murderer types?

RemyMartin81D

6,759 posts

206 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Gavia said:
SlimJim16v said:
How about one of those devices that fills your car/house with harmless smoke?

A naked man wearing a luminous Jason or Michael mask and brandishing a machete appearing out of it would probably be priceless.
Cool, not sure I could pull it off though (ooer, especially as naked). Are there any fat serial killer murderer types?
Leather face

Swinging around a chainsaw with a face of human skin will do the job

He was fat .

SlimJim16v

5,734 posts

144 months

Sunday 14th January 2018
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Yep, it's all about the weapon.

Was serious about the smoke though.