RE: Showpiece of the Week: Last ever SV
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WTFWT said:
I'd love to thrash it for an afternoon, but no more.
I drove a Gallardo for an afternoon through London and was stunned by the amount of negative attention it drew. Maybe I'm a sensitive soul, but that would really take the gloss off the ownership experience for me. Conversely, in 4 years of using the 8C extensively, I never got so much as an angry toot.
I don't suppose anyone noticed you and if they did they just weren't jealous. I drove a Gallardo for an afternoon through London and was stunned by the amount of negative attention it drew. Maybe I'm a sensitive soul, but that would really take the gloss off the ownership experience for me. Conversely, in 4 years of using the 8C extensively, I never got so much as an angry toot.
My Lambo never got anything but positive reactions from all walks of life McLaren has been the same and the only time I got some negative comments was in a ferrari,
RamboLambo said:
I don't suppose anyone noticed you and if they did they just weren't jealous.
My Lambo never got anything but positive reactions from all walks of life McLaren has been the same and the only time I got some negative comments was in a ferrari,
It was coffee beans out of van windows, "wker" from pavements etc. Standard wheels and exhaust, black paint, 06 car. My Lambo never got anything but positive reactions from all walks of life McLaren has been the same and the only time I got some negative comments was in a ferrari,
I would estimate 10 times over 3 hours. And I drove like a saint, honest!
I love the engine on this thing but the rest leaves me cold. The gearbox is archaic in this day and age, it’s too wide to use on our roads if you want to get a move on, its heavy and it under steers like a b
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Plus the image they give off just makes you feel like a dick, the only positive feedback you tend to get is from small boys with camera phones. I think you can put this down to the idiots revving the nuts off them around Harrods. Not that this should matter but after a while it does take the shine off the experience if every other look in your direction is a sneer.
Personally I would like to see Lamborghini be bold and brave and move away from the wedge of chesse styling. It’s old and boring now and brings nothing new to the party. But I suspect like Porsche they will not have the guts to change
h.Plus the image they give off just makes you feel like a dick, the only positive feedback you tend to get is from small boys with camera phones. I think you can put this down to the idiots revving the nuts off them around Harrods. Not that this should matter but after a while it does take the shine off the experience if every other look in your direction is a sneer.
Personally I would like to see Lamborghini be bold and brave and move away from the wedge of chesse styling. It’s old and boring now and brings nothing new to the party. But I suspect like Porsche they will not have the guts to change
havoc said:
I stand to be corrected, but I think Lamborghini quote 'dry' weights (i.e. no fluids, empty tank, no driver), so you can add ~150kg in reality.
Plus - standard Aventador is quoted elsewhere at 1575kg dry, so that's 1525kg dry for the SV, which equates to close-to-1,700kg EU kerb weight. For comparison the hybrid-burdened P1 weighs <1,400kg dry...
i.e. Lamborghini have NO reason to claim Chapman's crown...
Even if you discount differences due to fuel weight that's a trivial difference between a "behemoth" Lamborghini hypercar and a supposedly featherweight Lotus. That a hybrid hypercar like the P1 weighs LESS than a Lotus says a lot. And it isn't saying bad things about Lamborghini nor McLaren. Plus - standard Aventador is quoted elsewhere at 1575kg dry, so that's 1525kg dry for the SV, which equates to close-to-1,700kg EU kerb weight. For comparison the hybrid-burdened P1 weighs <1,400kg dry...
i.e. Lamborghini have NO reason to claim Chapman's crown...
Never really warmed to the Aventador. The Murcielago is, for me, the perfect Lamborghini - utterly batst, but simple and unfussy in design, and powered by the real Lamborghini (i.e. Giotto Bizzarrini) V12. The Aventador, even in SV form, just looks like a lardy lumpen mess, and the Audi V12 doesn't help endear it. Neither did the reports from Chris Harris and others of its wayward (mostly understeery) handling...
t, but simple and unfussy in design, and powered by the real Lamborghini (i.e. Giotto Bizzarrini) V12. The Aventador, even in SV form, just looks like a lardy lumpen mess, and the Audi V12 doesn't help endear it. Neither did the reports from Chris Harris and others of its wayward (mostly understeery) handling...PhantomPH said:
On the off chance you are both being sarcastic, the 'lightening bolts' are the letters 'SV'.
Believe it or not, you can have decals or painted. If you want 'SV' painted, it's a £7k option! Holy shirt balls!
Murci had the same:
I know exactly what they are, I just think they look sBelieve it or not, you can have decals or painted. If you want 'SV' painted, it's a £7k option! Holy shirt balls!
Murci had the same:
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MikeGalos said:
havoc said:
I stand to be corrected, but I think Lamborghini quote 'dry' weights (i.e. no fluids, empty tank, no driver), so you can add ~150kg in reality.
Plus - standard Aventador is quoted elsewhere at 1575kg dry, so that's 1525kg dry for the SV, which equates to close-to-1,700kg EU kerb weight. For comparison the hybrid-burdened P1 weighs <1,400kg dry...
i.e. Lamborghini have NO reason to claim Chapman's crown...
Even if you discount differences due to fuel weight that's a trivial difference between a "behemoth" Lamborghini hypercar and a supposedly featherweight Lotus. That a hybrid hypercar like the P1 weighs LESS than a Lotus says a lot. And it isn't saying bad things about Lamborghini nor McLaren. Plus - standard Aventador is quoted elsewhere at 1575kg dry, so that's 1525kg dry for the SV, which equates to close-to-1,700kg EU kerb weight. For comparison the hybrid-burdened P1 weighs <1,400kg dry...
i.e. Lamborghini have NO reason to claim Chapman's crown...
Kerb weight includes engine fluids, 3/4 tank and a 75kg driver (call it 150kg above dry weight or so in a supercar, maybe 125-135kg in an Evora or hot hatch). Dry weight is just that - completely empty car, no oil, coolant, fuel etc.
- Evora's Kerb weight is typically a little over 1,400kg, depending on model. Less for the older naturally-aspirated cars.
- Aventador Kerb weight is 1,700 to 1,750kg, depending on model. So >300kg different, like for like.
Both are mid-engine'd 2-seaters, the Lambo having 6 more cylinders, 3 more litres capacity but no s'charger. And 4wd in most variants. So >300kg for those differences is still quite a lot...and you really WOULD notice it on the road.
- P1 weight quoted was DRY - kerb weight is 1,547kg, so >100kg greater than the Lotus. Still a great achievement given the hybrid gubbins, but it's ~10x the price of an Evora, which pays for a lot of lightweight tech.
WTFWT said:
I'd love to thrash it for an afternoon, but no more.
I drove a Gallardo for an afternoon through London and was stunned by the amount of negative attention it drew. Maybe I'm a sensitive soul, but that would really take the gloss off the ownership experience for me. Conversely, in 4 years of using the 8C extensively, I never got so much as an angry toot.
I think you were unlucky, when I've driven exotic cars in London no one cared or payed attention.I drove a Gallardo for an afternoon through London and was stunned by the amount of negative attention it drew. Maybe I'm a sensitive soul, but that would really take the gloss off the ownership experience for me. Conversely, in 4 years of using the 8C extensively, I never got so much as an angry toot.
I like the Aventador SV though the Murci SV had more changes and was a more special car imo (-100kg and weighed less to begin with) and diff suspension etc
Really surprised at the comments and reactions. I would of thought the car was right up there as an icon and loved by everyone, especially if you don't own one and have to live with it.
I wouldn't have one but in terms of drop dead gorgeous supercar looks its total shock and awe.
Best Lamborghini nowadays is the Huracan Performante which looks mental, sounds mental and with its fantastic DCT gearbox drives like a dream as well. Far more practical and useable on a daily basis but gives you all the soul, passion, theatre and drama that say a turbocharged Ferrari 488 or McLaren 720S lack.
Long live the V10 normally aspirated engine and the Huracan Performante is a real game changer for Lamborghini track focussed cars being a massive step up from the standard Huracan
I wouldn't have one but in terms of drop dead gorgeous supercar looks its total shock and awe.
Best Lamborghini nowadays is the Huracan Performante which looks mental, sounds mental and with its fantastic DCT gearbox drives like a dream as well. Far more practical and useable on a daily basis but gives you all the soul, passion, theatre and drama that say a turbocharged Ferrari 488 or McLaren 720S lack.
Long live the V10 normally aspirated engine and the Huracan Performante is a real game changer for Lamborghini track focussed cars being a massive step up from the standard Huracan
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