RE: PH Service History: Bargain exotica

RE: PH Service History: Bargain exotica

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2 GKC

1,928 posts

107 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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CountZero23 said:
Indeed.

Even a 30k price tag puts a car beyond the means of the vast majority of enthusiasts. None of these are 'bargains'.

NSX's, Supra's, Nobles, Esprit's, and the cheaper Ferraris and the other 'affordable' exotics have gone ballistic and are now well out of the reach of most.

RX-7's, < 20k 996's, R8's all feel like far more natural fits than anything covered in the article.




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JoshMay

76 posts

110 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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I just makes me think of that episode of top gear where they all spent 10 grand on a supercar, the summary was you can buy one for that amount, for goodness sake do not!

You know what I would consider would be the Ferrari testarossa and then rub it in red. He just makes me think of that episode of top gear where they all spent 10 grand on a supercar, the summary was you can buy one for that amount, for goodness sake do not!

The only one I would consider would be the Ferrari testarossa and then rap it in red.

FN2TypeR

7,091 posts

95 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Wibble cloud9

sdiggle

182 posts

92 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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Ah yes...the running costs...DB9 loon here...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maNB5zk2dCA

tomic

720 posts

147 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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There’s a Maserati Granturismo with 48k miles and lots of history on autotrader at the moment for £23k. That seems like better value to me than any of these.

defonsecca

114 posts

87 months

Saturday 7th April 2018
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The Lele in a flash. It oozes class. Italian, understated, fabulous to drive, rare ....and reliable (relatively speaking). You won't lose any money when you sell it on either. Very under-rated car.

V8 FOU

2,978 posts

149 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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ishay said:
Looks wise and potential power wise, yes, absolutely. Can you really use it as a proper fast car without lunching the gearbox and/or something else? Possibly not.

I’ve driven out with one and it gets all the looks though. Lovely in small doses



Edited by ishay on Saturday 7th April 17:51
I owned one for 2 years and ragged it a lot. Most weekends and longer trips. Only breakdown? The fuel inertia switch. Fab car - try one and you will be amazed. As with any car, good servicing and preparation is the key. Oh, don't give it the beans in 2nd coming out of a roundabout in the wet........ don't ask......

vixen1700

23,224 posts

272 months

BogBeast

1,137 posts

265 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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With the gradual demise of the internal combustion engine, anything with a v8/v10/v12 is likely to achieve classic status in the coming years.. (IMHO...)

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,089 posts

100 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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The Iso looks a lovely thing - in theory. But in practice ? Let's face it, these things were never particularly well put together when new, and this one was made near the end of the firms life, when things were probably a bit tricky with suppliers and staff . The fact that is has barely managed 1000 miles a year for all it's life probably says something about how hard it is to keep these things going... I know the engine is US, but it's normally the small bespoke things which are now literally impossible to source - when they go wrong ( and they do ), you have a big problem....

Only one for the brave...

chappardababbar

423 posts

145 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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BogBeast said:
With the gradual demise of the internal combustion engine, anything with a v8/v10/v12 is likely to achieve classic status in the coming years.. (IMHO...)
Possibly, but in a few years time cars that don't have a place in pop culture or are considered pieces of art, just won't have bids. Young people simply aren't that interested in classics on the scale that is required to maintain prices or increase prices. It's supply and demand. Couple this with regulation, increases in fuel duty/environment tax, fewer places to fuel up, fewer parts availability, less technical expertise for servicing....and it doesn't make sense. Current car prices are too high. Once interest rates 'normalise' whatever that means, asset prices should gradually come down.

Another factor is changing behaviours. I don't think younger generations will have attention span and patience for classic car ownership.

s m

23,307 posts

205 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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You can tell you're on PH when the article writer gets hung up about being in the era of the £100,000 Sierra whilst conveniently forgetting we're also in the age of the quarter of a MILLION pounds Merc 190....

PH - badge snobbery matters

Its Just Adz

14,269 posts

211 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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To be fair though, the DB7 and Testarossa are truly terrible cars.

rockandrollmark

1,181 posts

225 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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chappardababbar said:
Possibly, but in a few years time cars that don't have a place in pop culture or are considered pieces of art, just won't have bids. Young people simply aren't that interested in classics on the scale that is required to maintain prices or increase prices. It's supply and demand. Couple this with regulation, increases in fuel duty/environment tax, fewer places to fuel up, fewer parts availability, less technical expertise for servicing....and it doesn't make sense. Current car prices are too high. Once interest rates 'normalise' whatever that means, asset prices should gradually come down.

Another factor is changing behaviours. I don't think younger generations will have attention span and patience for classic car ownership.
Said the previous generation about this generation, etc, etc...

Pothole

34,367 posts

284 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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anonymous said:
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Just cos owners haven't, doesn't mean one can't. Check out Jay Leno's vids about his former daily driver (and only car for years) Countach

Pothole

34,367 posts

284 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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Hardly suprising the Lele has something of the Espada about it, or even more so the Lambo Jarama...all desgined by Gandini at Bertone.

For a real bit of "bargain" exotica, how about a Maserati Karif?

£35k with uprated Wilwood brakes and plenty of power and speed. One of only 39 RHD cars, apparently..(so kind of 250GTO exotic, then, right?)

Sebastian Tombs

2,061 posts

194 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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Harry's Garage has made be re-evaluate the Testarossa in recent years. They look like a versatile, practical grand tourer. And love or hate the looks, they are somewhat iconic to those of us of a certain age.

I'm biased, owning one, but for me it's got to be the Aston Martin DB9 all day long. In terms of engineering, build quality, luxury, looks and feel-good factor it's in a totally different league to anything else you can get for that sort of money.

And no, a BMW Z3 isn't better. It's not even close. Don't be silly.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

158 months

Sunday 8th April 2018
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vixen1700 said:
I would say so. That's only heading one way price wise!

Pothole

34,367 posts

284 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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Here's another Bertone bargain:

Pothole

34,367 posts

284 months

Monday 9th April 2018
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Home grown anyone?