RE: Aston Martin sells Vanquish design for £20m

RE: Aston Martin sells Vanquish design for £20m

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hyphen

26,262 posts

91 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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HRCM said:
Lotus/ Geely?

Dyson?

Idle thoughts but who knows
lordf said:
TVR or Tesla.

Or Redbull are going to make a road car...
Would be beyond reckless if they had sold it to someone who will compete with them. Surely it must be a sale to a niche manufacturer and with lots of limitations.

gigglebug

2,611 posts

123 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Would a prototype be for sale if Khan had just acquired the rights to use the donor cars and tooling?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...

Sebastian Tombs

2,061 posts

193 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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David Brown Automotive?

tridave

249 posts

204 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Maybe Geely? It was a Lotus engineering car with the extruded chassis assembly done by Lotus structures. And the front ca,r on crash structure manufactured at Lotus cars.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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gigglebug said:
Would a prototype be for sale if Khan had just acquired the rights to use the donor cars and tooling?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
The entire production run, no less.

alexgould12

9 posts

163 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Bit of a strange idea but what about TVR? Could they use the technology and chassis to create a new Cerbera to add to the existing Griffith. It would possibly be more cost effective than designing from scratch.

The Hypno-Toad

12,345 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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lordf said:
TVR or Redbull are going to make a road car...
The best suggestions so far but it does seem very odd.



RemarkLima

2,407 posts

213 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Caterham, obviously... Right?


They've done it before, so some centuries later, give it another whirl.

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,080 posts

99 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Can't see it being Khan or Tvr. Neither have that sort of money burning a hole in their pockets, from what I understand.

Really odd story. It's not like the car was a great success or has a cult following or has obvious further market potential. Maybe Tesla have worked out they can make their new Sportster on this chasis? They have some form with the Elise....

BigChiefmuffinAgain

1,080 posts

99 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Can't see it being Khan or Tvr. Neither have that sort of money burning a hole in their pockets, from what I understand.

Really odd story. It's not like the car was a great success or has a cult following or has obvious further market potential. Maybe Tesla have worked out they can make their new Sportster on this chassis? They have some form with the Elise....

Amanitin

425 posts

138 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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i will place my bet on an unknown start up from the middle east. With active encouragement from the Kuwaiti stakeholders.

jimbo2728

232 posts

197 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Are they effectively saying they will just we out the Aston redundant car titles to raise funds and build share value? Or am I mega wide of the mark?

If so, apologies. But if that is their plan, how very disappointing.

Mr-B

3,792 posts

195 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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jimbo2728 said:
Are they effectively saying they will just we out the Aston redundant car titles to raise funds and build share value? Or am I mega wide of the mark?

If so, apologies. But if that is their plan, how very disappointing.
Sadly that was the first thing that came to mind when I read it bit like selling off the family silver to keep the mortgage payments up to date. I can imagine Andy Palmer going through the basement pointing at old stuff and saying "we don't need that any more lets flog it".

Turbobanana

6,348 posts

202 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Wasn't me. I'd be about £20m short.

Some Gump

12,729 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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My bet is the swedish outfit behind R.motorsport.

They are the guys involved with the crazy high end customer side. 20m is nkwt in the grand scheme to Aston, so it won't be the chinese etc - would ruin the brand. Needs to be someone they can totally trust - like thiose swiss bods. Same with Kahn. Just too risky to the brand for such a small return.

Pretty sure the Valkyrie and / or red bull aston supercar thing was made possible by them too.

Kermit74

79 posts

101 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Can you imagine Porsche or Ferrari doing this?

Smacks of desperation to me - the share offering has not worked out to well for them.

Some Gump

12,729 posts

187 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
gigglebug said:
Would a prototype be for sale if Khan had just acquired the rights to use the donor cars and tooling?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
The entire production run, no less.
Thank god for that, it's awful!

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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Some Gump said:
TooMany2cvs said:
gigglebug said:
Would a prototype be for sale if Khan had just acquired the rights to use the donor cars and tooling?

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201...
The entire production run, no less.
Thank god for that, it's awful!
Well, of course. It's Khan. What did you expect?

PGNSagaris

2,942 posts

167 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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cookie1600 said:
Kahn
No. They don’t have enough money for anything near the sums quoted above.

HRCM

70 posts

90 months

Wednesday 24th October 2018
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This

hyphen said:
Add 20m more to the company so it looked better for the IPO?

The IPO where the CEO stood to make a whole load of cash,
https://www.fidelity.com/news/article/IPO/20180920...
https://www.ft.com/content/46361be6-bcee-11e8-8274...


and that went wrong for the employees who invested. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/10/21/as...

The whole thing stinks if you ask me.
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Mr-B said:
Sadly that was the first thing that came to mind when I read it bit like selling off the family silver to keep the mortgage payments up to date. I can imagine Andy Palmer going through the basement pointing at old stuff and saying "we don't need that any more lets flog it".
Summarises my thoughts well.
The deal smacks of desperation after the less than brilliant start to the stock market flotation. Its quite normal for mainstream manufacturers to sell off old designs with tooling. Supercars and their chassis, engines etc also get repackaged and reused more than some would think.
I’d be surprised if whoever bought all this was allowed to make it look anything like the original though.
My money’s still on Dyson but I wouldn’t rule out Lotus/Geely.