Old Man's car ?
Discussion
The Brummie said:
I had an X Type. 3 litre V6.
Went like st off a shovel until it broke.
Now want a big V8 Jaguar.
Love the big old barges.
Old mans car? Who cares.
Indeed. I bought a 4.2 A8 a few years ago and drive the tits off it, as I do with my other three cars. I'll be 70 next year.Went like st off a shovel until it broke.
Now want a big V8 Jaguar.
Love the big old barges.
Old mans car? Who cares.
There will always be stereotypes. Many perpetuated by those who know nowt about cars.
Though the PH community is equally guilty at times.
Some that spring to mind -
Jag/Volvo - old man
Audi/BMW- bad drivers
X5/range rover/Q7 etc - mummy on school run
Zafira - bad driving/a bit council
The list can go on for ever. This is my old man's S60 -
Though the PH community is equally guilty at times.
Some that spring to mind -
Jag/Volvo - old man
Audi/BMW- bad drivers
X5/range rover/Q7 etc - mummy on school run
Zafira - bad driving/a bit council
The list can go on for ever. This is my old man's S60 -
I think I'm on the same wavelength as the old folks in that I want a car that works, I'm not particularly bothered about the image it projects, I prioritise comfort over eeking out every last lateral G in the corners, and because I have some money I'm not bothered about eeking out every last mpg either - I certainly won't tolerate the agricultural clatter of a diesel if it means giving up the smoothness of a decent sized petrol engine. This is good because it means that while strong demand buoys the value of the S-Lines and M-Sports that the thrusting young go-getters want, the type of car I'm after depreciates like a stone and thus can be picked up for buttons, which is nice. As others have mentioned, the lack of youngsters stacking the type of car I generally go for also means that you can get a decent level of performance without daft insurance premiums, which is also nice.
I think there's a criteria that's popular with a more senior male. Comfort, luxury, decent spec and decent engine.
The likes of a Jag will fit that criteria and in turn have an image linked to the older gent. Jags are a classic British brand so again, I can imagine and older person liking that and aiming for that. I have two neighbours, both in their 60s who stop and talk to me when I'm washing the car. Both into their cars and both have Jags.
I'm 36 so I don't consider myself old but I do drive an E Class Merc which I suspect many consider to be an 'old man's car'. I don't really care though as for the type of driving I do, it's comfortable, well spec'd and fairly powerful.
The likes of a Jag will fit that criteria and in turn have an image linked to the older gent. Jags are a classic British brand so again, I can imagine and older person liking that and aiming for that. I have two neighbours, both in their 60s who stop and talk to me when I'm washing the car. Both into their cars and both have Jags.
I'm 36 so I don't consider myself old but I do drive an E Class Merc which I suspect many consider to be an 'old man's car'. I don't really care though as for the type of driving I do, it's comfortable, well spec'd and fairly powerful.
I'd agree that certain Jags have an old man image about them, mainly the larger and older the car, the more "old man image" - for example the X308 or X350 XJ. Things like the F-Pace and XE instead have the school run mum or salesman image, so I'm not sure you can tarnish all Jags with the same image brush.
That being said, any hint of old man image wouldn't put me off buying an older Jag. I have a hankering for an X350 shape XJ Sovereign in dark green with a nice cream interior, not the usual choice for someone in their mid 20's. Then again I'm already in a Rover 75 so maybe my taste in barges is a little ahead of its time...
That being said, any hint of old man image wouldn't put me off buying an older Jag. I have a hankering for an X350 shape XJ Sovereign in dark green with a nice cream interior, not the usual choice for someone in their mid 20's. Then again I'm already in a Rover 75 so maybe my taste in barges is a little ahead of its time...
I think the perception is that to have a Jag you value comfort over 'sportiness', and obviously marketing has informed us that sportiness is the very essence of youth and virility.
This is even more obvious when you consider the quintessential old man's car, the Volvo. Absolutely no sporting pretence at all, thus it's for coffin dodgers, with the added benefit when one of them dies, the other can transport the coffin around in the back
I've had a Volvo since I was 29, I tried to pretend I still had 'it' but getting the 'Sport' (didn't realise they did one...) but realistically a 2005 V70 is nearly as old man as I think you can go, whether it has a spoiler and 18" wheels (factory fit of course!) or not
This is even more obvious when you consider the quintessential old man's car, the Volvo. Absolutely no sporting pretence at all, thus it's for coffin dodgers, with the added benefit when one of them dies, the other can transport the coffin around in the back
I've had a Volvo since I was 29, I tried to pretend I still had 'it' but getting the 'Sport' (didn't realise they did one...) but realistically a 2005 V70 is nearly as old man as I think you can go, whether it has a spoiler and 18" wheels (factory fit of course!) or not
Alex_225 said:
I think there's a criteria that's popular with a more senior male. Comfort, luxury, decent spec and decent engine.
The likes of a Jag will fit that criteria and in turn have an image linked to the older gent. Jags are a classic British brand so again, I can imagine and older person liking that and aiming for that. I have two neighbours, both in their 60s who stop and talk to me when I'm washing the car. Both into their cars and both have Jags.
I'm 36 so I don't consider myself old but I do drive an E Class Merc which I suspect many consider to be an 'old man's car'. I don't really care though as for the type of driving I do, it's comfortable, well spec'd and fairly powerful.
You're 36 and DON'T consider yourself old. And you drive an E class Merc.The likes of a Jag will fit that criteria and in turn have an image linked to the older gent. Jags are a classic British brand so again, I can imagine and older person liking that and aiming for that. I have two neighbours, both in their 60s who stop and talk to me when I'm washing the car. Both into their cars and both have Jags.
I'm 36 so I don't consider myself old but I do drive an E Class Merc which I suspect many consider to be an 'old man's car'. I don't really care though as for the type of driving I do, it's comfortable, well spec'd and fairly powerful.
That Merc just spells 'OLD', like Jags going to the golf club or out for Sunday Lunch, complete with blazer and silk hankie in the breast pocket.
That's why I'm in a BM, a very strong message that I'm a successful young entrepreneur and a real go-getter and going places.
That's the image people will subconsciously have of me and why I couldn't drive a Jag, although some of my really old customers do have Jags so I'm happy to play them along when they go on about Jag's racing history. YAWN
TarpaTow said:
Alex_225 said:
I think there's a criteria that's popular with a more senior male. Comfort, luxury, decent spec and decent engine.
The likes of a Jag will fit that criteria and in turn have an image linked to the older gent. Jags are a classic British brand so again, I can imagine and older person liking that and aiming for that. I have two neighbours, both in their 60s who stop and talk to me when I'm washing the car. Both into their cars and both have Jags.
I'm 36 so I don't consider myself old but I do drive an E Class Merc which I suspect many consider to be an 'old man's car'. I don't really care though as for the type of driving I do, it's comfortable, well spec'd and fairly powerful.
You're 36 and DON'T consider yourself old. And you drive an E class Merc.The likes of a Jag will fit that criteria and in turn have an image linked to the older gent. Jags are a classic British brand so again, I can imagine and older person liking that and aiming for that. I have two neighbours, both in their 60s who stop and talk to me when I'm washing the car. Both into their cars and both have Jags.
I'm 36 so I don't consider myself old but I do drive an E Class Merc which I suspect many consider to be an 'old man's car'. I don't really care though as for the type of driving I do, it's comfortable, well spec'd and fairly powerful.
That Merc just spells 'OLD', like Jags going to the golf club or out for Sunday Lunch, complete with blazer and silk hankie in the breast pocket.
That's why I'm in a BM, a very strong message that I'm a successful young entrepreneur and a real go-getter and going places.
That's the image people will subconsciously have of me and why I couldn't drive a Jag, although some of my really old customers do have Jags so I'm happy to play them along when they go on about Jag's racing history. YAWN
TarpaTow said:
That's why I'm in a BM, a very strong message that I'm a successful young entrepreneur and a real go-getter and going places.
That's the image people will subconsciously have of me and why I couldn't drive a Jag, although some of my really old customers do have Jags so I'm happy to play them along when they go on about Jag's racing history. YAWN
I can't decide if this is a wind up or not... sadly, I suspect it may not be. That's the image people will subconsciously have of me and why I couldn't drive a Jag, although some of my really old customers do have Jags so I'm happy to play them along when they go on about Jag's racing history. YAWN
I'm an old man at 24 and for the last two and a half years I've driven an old mans car - complete with cream leather, soft suspension and a pack of Werther's Originals in the armrest.
If I cared about what other people thought of my car, I'd drive a 320d or similar. OP - just enjoy your car! For the record, I'd love an X308 or X350 XJR, I've been eyeing them up in the classifieds lately.
If I cared about what other people thought of my car, I'd drive a 320d or similar. OP - just enjoy your car! For the record, I'd love an X308 or X350 XJR, I've been eyeing them up in the classifieds lately.
Not sure if this is still the case but Jaguar dealerships used to have an insurance policy that nobody under the age of 35 could go and take any of their performance cars out for a spin.
(According to an old work colleague who wanted to buy a new XKR a few years back - he ended up buying an M6 instead)
(According to an old work colleague who wanted to buy a new XKR a few years back - he ended up buying an M6 instead)
At 17 I bought a Mondeo.
Then at 22 I bought another Mondeo.
At 26 I still have both of them.
As a teenager I got all the "old man's car" stuff from mates, family, everybody. But who was it always got asked to do the driving on long trips? That's because the cars are roomy and comfortable, not cramped and uncomfortable like many smaller 'hot hatch' type cars.
Then at 22 I bought another Mondeo.
At 26 I still have both of them.
As a teenager I got all the "old man's car" stuff from mates, family, everybody. But who was it always got asked to do the driving on long trips? That's because the cars are roomy and comfortable, not cramped and uncomfortable like many smaller 'hot hatch' type cars.
zarjaz1991 said:
At 17 I bought a Mondeo.
Then at 22 I bought another Mondeo.
At 26 I still have both of them.
As a teenager I got all the "old man's car" stuff from mates, family, everybody. But who was it always got asked to do the driving on long trips? That's because the cars are roomy and comfortable, not cramped and uncomfortable like many smaller 'hot hatch' type cars.
How’s it going Scott, was worried about you Then at 22 I bought another Mondeo.
At 26 I still have both of them.
As a teenager I got all the "old man's car" stuff from mates, family, everybody. But who was it always got asked to do the driving on long trips? That's because the cars are roomy and comfortable, not cramped and uncomfortable like many smaller 'hot hatch' type cars.
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