tailing people out of airport car parks
Discussion
gazza285 said:
Starfighter said:
popeyewhite said:
It's not a scam, it's to deter people who selfishly take far too long dropping people off so others can't use the (limited) drop off zone.
So why not make it free off charge for the first 5 minutes? Dropped a colleague off a couple of weeks back and didn’t recall seeing signs for this. Also keeping to the limit is going to take you very close to 5 mins. It is a money making scam all over no ifs or butts.
The free drop of zone you refer to is a park and ride whoopydoo for people dragging cases onto and off buses and queuing up etc.
Much of the terminal congestion at Mankchester airport was self induced by cars recirculating for just a quick collect to try and avoid the atrocious pick up charges.
Never an issue in the old days just make it how it was 30 mins free to collect and 10 free to drop off.
All about the money at Mcr.
Scam scam scam.
They have to be seen to be getting people to use alternative ways of getting to the s
tpit that is Mcr airport.speedyguy said:
Are you REALLY that naive??
It is a money making scam all over no ifs or butts.
The free drop of zone you refer to is a park and ride whoopydoo for people dragging cases onto and off buses and queuing up etc.
Much of the terminal congestion at Mankchester airport was self induced by cars recirculating for just a quick collect to try and avoid the atrocious pick up charges.
Never an issue in the old days just make it how it was 30 mins free to collect and 10 free to drop off.
All about the money at Mcr.
Scam scam scam.
They have to be seen to be getting people to use alternative ways of getting to the stpit that is Mcr airport.
Yep. Since charging was introduced, what used to take me 25+ minutes now takes me 2min. All because people would endlessly loop the grounds to save a few quid on parking.It is a money making scam all over no ifs or butts.
The free drop of zone you refer to is a park and ride whoopydoo for people dragging cases onto and off buses and queuing up etc.
Much of the terminal congestion at Mankchester airport was self induced by cars recirculating for just a quick collect to try and avoid the atrocious pick up charges.
Never an issue in the old days just make it how it was 30 mins free to collect and 10 free to drop off.
All about the money at Mcr.
Scam scam scam.
They have to be seen to be getting people to use alternative ways of getting to the s
tpit that is Mcr airport.It’s about the only thing MAG have done in the past 10 years that I think has actually been beneficial though, the rest of it is going downhill, with no end in sight.
designforlife said:
I would be amazed if they don't employ some form of ANPR...
Wouldn't that create a situation where the "tailer" is seen as having left the car park but the "tailed" isn't because their number plate was obscured by the tailing vehicle, so the "tailed" ends up with a huge bill for overstaying because the car park think's they're still there?My BIL did it. The barrier came down on his roof and dented it. He forbid his wife from telling me because he knew I'd piss my self laughing. I found out years later.
Years back when they used to have the rising bollard at London Underground stations I saw a car leave the car park. The Mini behind followed them... but of course left a too big a gap... barrier came up... Mini drove straight into and the back actually went up in the air. I stood there laughing
Years back when they used to have the rising bollard at London Underground stations I saw a car leave the car park. The Mini behind followed them... but of course left a too big a gap... barrier came up... Mini drove straight into and the back actually went up in the air. I stood there laughing
speedyguy said:
gazza285 said:
Starfighter said:
popeyewhite said:
It's not a scam, it's to deter people who selfishly take far too long dropping people off so others can't use the (limited) drop off zone.
So why not make it free off charge for the first 5 minutes? Dropped a colleague off a couple of weeks back and didn’t recall seeing signs for this. Also keeping to the limit is going to take you very close to 5 mins. It is a money making scam all over no ifs or butts.
The free drop of zone you refer to is a park and ride whoopydoo for people dragging cases onto and off buses and queuing up etc.
Much of the terminal congestion at Mankchester airport was self induced by cars recirculating for just a quick collect to try and avoid the atrocious pick up charges.
Never an issue in the old days just make it how it was 30 mins free to collect and 10 free to drop off.
All about the money at Mcr.
Scam scam scam.
They have to be seen to be getting people to use alternative ways of getting to the s
tpit that is Mcr airport.
And yes it was an issue in the old days - you frequently had to wait while cars dropped people off, said their goodbyes, checked their phones, said ta-ra to relatives, had a coffee etcWe book our car in when we go abroad and the number plate reader opens the barrier for us automatically and reads it when we leave.
These parking companies are wise to this.
They read the number going in, they read the number going out, they read the number while you drive round.
Chances are, his car is still registered as being parked in the car park. When he gets the bill for a month or parking he might wish he didn't tailgate.
These parking companies are wise to this.
They read the number going in, they read the number going out, they read the number while you drive round.
Chances are, his car is still registered as being parked in the car park. When he gets the bill for a month or parking he might wish he didn't tailgate.
popeyewhite said:
It's not a scam, it's to deter people who selfishly take far too long dropping people off so others can't use the (limited) drop off zone.
You couldnt really take long before as the parking attendants would roll up as soon as you pulled up to drop somebody off. Personally i think it may have something to do with the billion pound or so manchester airport business hub and terminal extensions they seem to be making.
Still, at least they now provide a free shuttle service for people being dropped off.. like a mile away
speedyguy said:
gazza285 said:
Starfighter said:
popeyewhite said:
It's not a scam, it's to deter people who selfishly take far too long dropping people off so others can't use the (limited) drop off zone.
So why not make it free off charge for the first 5 minutes? Dropped a colleague off a couple of weeks back and didn’t recall seeing signs for this. Also keeping to the limit is going to take you very close to 5 mins. It is a money making scam all over no ifs or butts.
The free drop of zone you refer to is a park and ride whoopydoo for people dragging cases onto and off buses and queuing up etc.
Much of the terminal congestion at Mankchester airport was self induced by cars recirculating for just a quick collect to try and avoid the atrocious pick up charges.
Never an issue in the old days just make it how it was 30 mins free to collect and 10 free to drop off.
All about the money at Mcr.
Scam scam scam.
They have to be seen to be getting people to use alternative ways of getting to the s
tpit that is Mcr airport.gazza285 said:
speedyguy said:
gazza285 said:
Starfighter said:
popeyewhite said:
It's not a scam, it's to deter people who selfishly take far too long dropping people off so others can't use the (limited) drop off zone.
So why not make it free off charge for the first 5 minutes? Dropped a colleague off a couple of weeks back and didn’t recall seeing signs for this. Also keeping to the limit is going to take you very close to 5 mins. It is a money making scam all over no ifs or butts.
The free drop of zone you refer to is a park and ride whoopydoo for people dragging cases onto and off buses and queuing up etc.
Much of the terminal congestion at Mankchester airport was self induced by cars recirculating for just a quick collect to try and avoid the atrocious pick up charges.
Never an issue in the old days just make it how it was 30 mins free to collect and 10 free to drop off.
All about the money at Mcr.
Scam scam scam.
They have to be seen to be getting people to use alternative ways of getting to the s
tpit that is Mcr airport.That’s almost doubling the cost of my entire holiday package and ten times the petrol cost.
Besides I don’t have to pay when parking right outside the doors of the shops in drop off zones or disabled bays, so why shouldn’t I continue think that My needs exceed everyone else’s.
/ Woosh Parrot
designforlife said:
People trying to dick the system like that are part of the reason why prices go up for the rest of us...
But as far as your original question goes, I would be amazed if they don't employ some form of ANPR, I would imagine they are pretty wise to attempted scams... would be very easy to catch on to.
Exactly that.But as far as your original question goes, I would be amazed if they don't employ some form of ANPR, I would imagine they are pretty wise to attempted scams... would be very easy to catch on to.
Maybe it's a good idea to move through the barriers at a controlled speed, which lets the barrier close neatly behind us.
designforlife said:
People trying to dick the system like that are part of the reason why prices go up for the rest of us..
Actually that is an incorrect statement. The primary driver behind parking cost inflation is the ability and desire of consumers to pay. The lack of competitive supply means that you are free to raise prices to the highest possible level before this price reaches the point where you start to be able to sell all of the spaces at a sufficient rate. So, what causes price inflation is the consumers willingness to pay more.
The Crack Fox said:
Airport drop off fees are daylight robbery. I fly loads and hate it. It’s not that I can’t afford £3, but £3 for seconds when there’s zero alternative and you’re spending hundreds to travel anyway is really st. They can charge £5, or £10, or however much they like, because you almost certainly have very little alternative. My MX5 goes under the barrier at East Midlands, carpark 1 at Birmingham has a return lane you can drop off in if you’re clever, Stansted you can drop folks at the barrier to the rental car return and there are other spots to avoid drop off fees if you’re canny. Travel used to be fun, interesting, rewarding... its fking horrible now. Little tricks like removing seating so you have to go into a restaurant to sit down (and spend money).. Luton is terrible for this. Paying for priority at the security queues instead of the airport employing sufficient staff to manage their passengers, having to zig-zag through a duty-free shop with flouncing tts spraying you with aftershave instead of getting straight to the gate... honestly, I could rant for hours. I can afford the drop off fee, it goes on expenses anyway, but fk them for the cheek to charge it and good luck to anyone who gets away with it.
PS - FWIW, I am the squarest of squares, normally. But fk MAG and half of the UK’s robbing airports.
They did a documentary on Stansted airport a few years ago, other airports are available and documented, and they were saying that the targeted spend per passenger journey through the airport was something like £45 for all non flight related spend. It has probably gone up since then.t. They can charge £5, or £10, or however much they like, because you almost certainly have very little alternative. My MX5 goes under the barrier at East Midlands, carpark 1 at Birmingham has a return lane you can drop off in if you’re clever, Stansted you can drop folks at the barrier to the rental car return and there are other spots to avoid drop off fees if you’re canny. Travel used to be fun, interesting, rewarding... its fking horrible now. Little tricks like removing seating so you have to go into a restaurant to sit down (and spend money).. Luton is terrible for this. Paying for priority at the security queues instead of the airport employing sufficient staff to manage their passengers, having to zig-zag through a duty-free shop with flouncing tts spraying you with aftershave instead of getting straight to the gate... honestly, I could rant for hours. I can afford the drop off fee, it goes on expenses anyway, but fk them for the cheek to charge it and good luck to anyone who gets away with it. PS - FWIW, I am the squarest of squares, normally. But f
k MAG and half of the UK’s robbing airports.MAG have monetised Stansted in a big way since they took over, they probably earn more revenue per passenger now than a cheap flight to Spain earns Ryanair.
popeyewhite said:
WolfAir said:
I had the opportunity to do this not long ago at Manchester Airport. They have recently introduced a drop off fee of £3 for 5minutes £4 for 10. Or park up for half an hour from £4 upwards.
I was going to pay at the barrier after droppinh my brother in law off and as the car infront paid and left, the barrier was up slightly longer than i thought it would be and in that moment i wondered if i should just tail them out for free, because fu man airport for your shtty drop off scam. But in the end i paid. Not sure why.
It's not a scam, it's to deter people who selfishly take far too long dropping people off so others can't use the (limited) drop off zone.I was going to pay at the barrier after droppinh my brother in law off and as the car infront paid and left, the barrier was up slightly longer than i thought it would be and in that moment i wondered if i should just tail them out for free, because fu man airport for your shtty drop off scam. But in the end i paid. Not sure why.
aeropilot said:
popeyewhite said:
WolfAir said:
I had the opportunity to do this not long ago at Manchester Airport. They have recently introduced a drop off fee of £3 for 5minutes £4 for 10. Or park up for half an hour from £4 upwards.
I was going to pay at the barrier after droppinh my brother in law off and as the car infront paid and left, the barrier was up slightly longer than i thought it would be and in that moment i wondered if i should just tail them out for free, because fu man airport for your shtty drop off scam. But in the end i paid. Not sure why.
It's not a scam, it's to deter people who selfishly take far too long dropping people off so others can't use the (limited) drop off zone.I was going to pay at the barrier after droppinh my brother in law off and as the car infront paid and left, the barrier was up slightly longer than i thought it would be and in that moment i wondered if i should just tail them out for free, because fu man airport for your shtty drop off scam. But in the end i paid. Not sure why.
Monkeylegend said:
The Crack Fox said:
Airport drop off fees are daylight robbery. I fly loads and hate it. It’s not that I can’t afford £3, but £3 for seconds when there’s zero alternative and you’re spending hundreds to travel anyway is really st. They can charge £5, or £10, or however much they like, because you almost certainly have very little alternative. My MX5 goes under the barrier at East Midlands, carpark 1 at Birmingham has a return lane you can drop off in if you’re clever, Stansted you can drop folks at the barrier to the rental car return and there are other spots to avoid drop off fees if you’re canny. Travel used to be fun, interesting, rewarding... its fking horrible now. Little tricks like removing seating so you have to go into a restaurant to sit down (and spend money).. Luton is terrible for this. Paying for priority at the security queues instead of the airport employing sufficient staff to manage their passengers, having to zig-zag through a duty-free shop with flouncing tts spraying you with aftershave instead of getting straight to the gate... honestly, I could rant for hours. I can afford the drop off fee, it goes on expenses anyway, but fk them for the cheek to charge it and good luck to anyone who gets away with it.
PS - FWIW, I am the squarest of squares, normally. But fk MAG and half of the UK’s robbing airports.
They did a documentary on Stansted airport a few years ago, other airports are available and documented, and they were saying that the targeted spend per passenger journey through the airport was something like £45 for all non flight related spend. It has probably gone up since then.t. They can charge £5, or £10, or however much they like, because you almost certainly have very little alternative. My MX5 goes under the barrier at East Midlands, carpark 1 at Birmingham has a return lane you can drop off in if you’re clever, Stansted you can drop folks at the barrier to the rental car return and there are other spots to avoid drop off fees if you’re canny. Travel used to be fun, interesting, rewarding... its fking horrible now. Little tricks like removing seating so you have to go into a restaurant to sit down (and spend money).. Luton is terrible for this. Paying for priority at the security queues instead of the airport employing sufficient staff to manage their passengers, having to zig-zag through a duty-free shop with flouncing tts spraying you with aftershave instead of getting straight to the gate... honestly, I could rant for hours. I can afford the drop off fee, it goes on expenses anyway, but fk them for the cheek to charge it and good luck to anyone who gets away with it. PS - FWIW, I am the squarest of squares, normally. But f
k MAG and half of the UK’s robbing airports.MAG have monetised Stansted in a big way since they took over, they probably earn more revenue per passenger now than a cheap flight to Spain earns Ryanair.
I’ve generally always flown out of Heathrow so used the train to get there and then hid in one of the lounges but I recently flew out of Birmingham. It was a nice airport. Parking directly opposite Departures, nice staff but they’ve set up a benefits obstacle course and maze staffed by trannies in an attempt to sell fags, gin and stench masking liquids to an army of grazing Weebles.
Monkeylegend said:
The Crack Fox said:
Airport drop off fees are daylight robbery. I fly loads and hate it. It’s not that I can’t afford £3, but £3 for seconds when there’s zero alternative and you’re spending hundreds to travel anyway is really st. They can charge £5, or £10, or however much they like, because you almost certainly have very little alternative. My MX5 goes under the barrier at East Midlands, carpark 1 at Birmingham has a return lane you can drop off in if you’re clever, Stansted you can drop folks at the barrier to the rental car return and there are other spots to avoid drop off fees if you’re canny. Travel used to be fun, interesting, rewarding... its fking horrible now. Little tricks like removing seating so you have to go into a restaurant to sit down (and spend money).. Luton is terrible for this. Paying for priority at the security queues instead of the airport employing sufficient staff to manage their passengers, having to zig-zag through a duty-free shop with flouncing tts spraying you with aftershave instead of getting straight to the gate... honestly, I could rant for hours. I can afford the drop off fee, it goes on expenses anyway, but fk them for the cheek to charge it and good luck to anyone who gets away with it.
PS - FWIW, I am the squarest of squares, normally. But fk MAG and half of the UK’s robbing airports.
They did a documentary on Stansted airport a few years ago, other airports are available and documented, and they were saying that the targeted spend per passenger journey through the airport was something like £45 for all non flight related spend. It has probably gone up since then.t. They can charge £5, or £10, or however much they like, because you almost certainly have very little alternative. My MX5 goes under the barrier at East Midlands, carpark 1 at Birmingham has a return lane you can drop off in if you’re clever, Stansted you can drop folks at the barrier to the rental car return and there are other spots to avoid drop off fees if you’re canny. Travel used to be fun, interesting, rewarding... its fking horrible now. Little tricks like removing seating so you have to go into a restaurant to sit down (and spend money).. Luton is terrible for this. Paying for priority at the security queues instead of the airport employing sufficient staff to manage their passengers, having to zig-zag through a duty-free shop with flouncing tts spraying you with aftershave instead of getting straight to the gate... honestly, I could rant for hours. I can afford the drop off fee, it goes on expenses anyway, but fk them for the cheek to charge it and good luck to anyone who gets away with it. PS - FWIW, I am the squarest of squares, normally. But f
k MAG and half of the UK’s robbing airports.MAG have monetised Stansted in a big way since they took over, they probably earn more revenue per passenger now than a cheap flight to Spain earns Ryanair.
gazza285 said:
Oh no! A five minute bus ride! Holiday ruined...
The bus is only every 15 minutes, so likely you will have to wait more than 5 minutes for it to leave.And then yes, its only 5 minutes to T1. Although if you are going from T2 you will have to stay on the bus so (according to Manchester Evening News) likely 25 minutes to get to terminal. Then you can assist your elderly Italian relatives to luggage drop etc and get the same journey back. Of course don't be longer than 1 hour or you get fined £25.
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