RE: New all-wheel drive Kia Stinger gets drift mode

[Cupramax]

One of these at 5 years old when the stupid £40k luxury tax has expired and depreciated a good lump, might then be a good buy.

[generationx]

I’ll stick with my Giulia thanks

[RSTurboPaul]

nickfrog said:

RSTurboPaul said:

This.


Nevermind that one is driving some dreary, under-engined, miserable handling identi-box, look at the shiny tech! Look at the badge! Look at the 'lifestyle'!



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I have one of these for the commute as it's perfect for the job and more crucially it's very very cheap. I am not too fussed about lifestyle either as I am not sure what that means nor knew that anyone cared enough to post about it. The tech is superb indeed and does make life easier, particularly the Android / Google maps / Spotify integration.

It sounds like you have bought sensibly and to achieve certain requirements, which makes perfect sense.

I was more tilting at the fact that many people are seemingly more bothered by brand 'image' than what a car actually does or whether it serves their purposes - reference the comments made fairly frequently in the Lease Deals threads about how a partner / a friend / a chap from the office wouldn't be seen dead in a Seat or a Skoda, despite it basically being a rebadged VW, and would rather pay the 'badge tax' because they want a 'premium' brand and to show they are living a 'lifestyle' apparently so keenly advertised by the manufacturers.

[howardhughes]

There are two words in this article which don't go together, Kia and Stinger.
No matter how much you dress this car up whether it's a 5 litre twin-turbo 700bhp, it will never have the kudos of it's German counter part. And yes I'm a badge snob.

[anonymous-user]

howardhughes said:

it will never have the kudos of it's German counter part.

no one really cares, they make good cars cheaper and better value than the Germans. The badge snobs will keep buying them, which is how bmw can sell fwd and merc Renault diesel engined cars.

The rest can buy cars that are most likely better.

[MB140]

At £44k then I’m going brand new mustang. Sorry it’s overpriced. There’s no decent deals and will be worth practically nothing when depreciation kicks in.

[Some Guy]

Spotted one in Germany last week. Sounded excellent.

[ducnick]

6k Service interval sounds very sensible and about right for its performance to guarantee good longevity.
Its not a pcp diesel box with artificially high U.K. only service intervals after all. If you go to other markets you will discover bmw /Merc/vag service intervals come down too ... spooky
Proper performance cars have even shorter service intervals!

[CaptainSensib1e]

howardhughes said:

There are two words in this article which don't go together, Kia and Stinger.
No matter how much you dress this car up whether it's a 5 litre twin-turbo 700bhp, it will never have the kudos of it's German counter part. And yes I'm a badge snob.

You're a marketers dream. Over paying for items purely because of the badge on the nose. Still, means those companies can keep making massive profits.

[GhellopeSir]

Seen a number of these on the roads in various colours, nice looking car.

[Andeh1]

howardhughes said:

There are two words in this article which don't go together, Kia and Stinger.
No matter how much you dress this car up whether it's a 5 litre twin-turbo 700bhp, it will never have the kudos of it's German counter part. And yes I'm a badge snob.

At least you're honest!

[nickfrog]

Thesprucegoose said:

howardhughes said:

it will never have the kudos of it's German counter part.

no one really cares, they make good cars cheaper and better value than the Germans. The badge snobs will keep buying them, which is how bmw can sell fwd and merc Renault diesel engined cars.

The rest can buy cars that are most likely better.

I think you are judging others by your own standards. It's entirely possible to buy a car that happens to be German not because of badge snobbery but because that particular car is excellent. "The Germans" make some excellent cars and some mediocre ones, exactly like other countries. Some people are badge snob, some are not and some are even reverse snobs. As for value, I have had German cars that were superb value compared to Korean cars (which are now priced at German car price points but without the residuals, yet).

Basically, stigmatising binary thinking by using binary thinking doesn't work.

[jason61c]

The shocking thing for some people on here.... Kia’s hood their money as well, if not better than most ‘German’ badges and better than fords etc etc.

[Selmer Mk6]

Frimley111R said:

This, it's a novelty car but once that is over 99% of buyers in the UK want a prestige badge. It'll depreciate like a stone.

Oh and the german brands hold their value!

You are likely to lose less in money terms buying the Kia.

[anonymous-user]

As usual those that wax lyrical about the Kia and slate the ‘Germans’ will likely never own either

[anonymous-user]

yonex said:

As usual those that wax lyrical about the Kia and slate the ‘Germans’ will likely never own either

moronic comment,, you can't have an opinion on cars if you don't buy one, what about the reviewers,, journos,ffs it's a car forum.

[MG CHRIS]

jason61c said:

The shocking thing for some people on here.... Kia’s hood their money as well, if not better than most ‘German’ badges and better than fords etc etc.

Yep only have too look at values of the proceed gt the first attempt at a hot hatch even 5 year old models are holding above 10k and the face lift version 2016 on are around 15-18k mark.

The stinger is a stunning car in the flesh specially in red there is one in the showroom in work at it stands out amongst the others. Kia are on a roll along with Hyundai and they are getting more popular as people start very slowly mind you too reject the German cars. Long may it continue more people buying them means more too service and repair which keeps me in a job.

Oh btw I own a 2016 procced gt in white surprises a lot of people.

[bloomen]

I've liked all the Kias I've rented a lot but this one is trying too hard visually. I'd like a Dullard Pack and then I'd definitely consider one.

[saxy]

I own a Stinger GT. The best money spent on a car ever. Though mind you I don’t live in Europe so I got none of that 22% tax. Equivalent price I paid for was the same price for a base model Mercedes 1.5l C200.

It came with 370Ps as well as all the options of damper adjustment, heated and cooled seats, Car Apple play, 15 speaker HK stereo, Napa leather interior, electric tailgate.

[SOL111]

Thesprucegoose said:

howardhughes said:

it will never have the kudos of it's German counter part.

no one really cares, they make good cars cheaper and better value than the Germans. The badge snobs will keep buying them, which is how bmw can sell fwd and merc Renault diesel engined cars.

The rest can buy cars that are most likely better.

Sorry but everyone cares bar a few.

The very fact that every single article makes a huge point about Albert Biermann (that includes Hyundai too) highlights this.

Personally I think the opposite is true. I've driven a few regular Hyundai's and Kia's and I'd have a low grade BMW any day. Even a 116d is an entertaining steer, which can't be said for the Korean fare.