RE: 'The toughest, most capable Land Rover ever'
Discussion
GranCab said:
KP328 said:
Some nice photo's of the new Discovery Defender. No photo's of it doing the school run though where most of them will be seen.
0/10 for originality ...richs2891 said:
Some very good quality pics there, guessing JLR released pictures ?
Agree with above looks like a Disco 4. But a simplified Disco 3 or 4 seems to be the sensible route to go
Agreed.Agree with above looks like a Disco 4. But a simplified Disco 3 or 4 seems to be the sensible route to go
The D4 is probably one of the best cars LR produced and one of the best ever cars. If the Defender can replicate this in a simpler way then its on the money.
Either way JLR will sell shed loads.
sgtBerbatov said:
I'm not an off road expert, but that doesn't look like it has the same sort of ground clearance of the superior Land Cruiser, let alone the old Land Rover Defender?
Clearance doesn’t look too bad, might even be able to raise it at the push of a button (before it goes wrong). I can’t imagine Toyota are losing any sleep over it. spikyone said:
Sadly all LR/RR models since the Evoque have looked like the Evoque. Unless you park them next to each other it's near impossible to tell them apart. I hope I'm wrong, but I imagine this will go the same way.
The Velar looks distinctly different. And better than the other LR models to my eyes. Edited by Nerdherder on Tuesday 30th April 08:37
Burwood said:
GranCab said:
KP328 said:
Some nice photo's of the new Discovery Defender. No photo's of it doing the school run though where most of them will be seen.
0/10 for originality ...bearman68 said:
Wonder what price they're going to charge for it. For it to complete it's design brief IMO it has to have:-
1) Ability to tow 3.5t.
2) Genuine off road ability.
3) Proper transfer box, and a manual option.
4) Hugely reduced electronic control. I'll allow electric windows, ABS, and a clever anti slip function on the wheels. Electronic engine control of course, but not much more.
5) Ability to be cleaned out with a jet washer.
6) Be less than £30k OTR.
I suspect the last 3 things will not happen.
Looking forward to seeing what they do.
When was this mythical last time you could clean out a LR product with a jet wash...or more realistically a hose.....my 1983 Range Rover....nah, would ruin my velour seats, soak the carpets and rust out the footwells. My 2001 Defender....nah, would f&ck all the electrics. So not for the last 30 odd years.1) Ability to tow 3.5t.
2) Genuine off road ability.
3) Proper transfer box, and a manual option.
4) Hugely reduced electronic control. I'll allow electric windows, ABS, and a clever anti slip function on the wheels. Electronic engine control of course, but not much more.
5) Ability to be cleaned out with a jet washer.
6) Be less than £30k OTR.
I suspect the last 3 things will not happen.
Looking forward to seeing what they do.
All the Defender has to do is 1 and 2 on your list. No-one cares about a proper (manual?) transfer box if it can be done electronically.
Apart from that, be a Disco 4 but with more fuel efficient preferably non-diesel engines and be priced from mid-30s upwards for a basic version that you can extensively personalise (rather than give the cash to the array of third parties).
I’m in the market for one for the wife to replace her Ford Ranger pick up, which replaced the Disco 4 that she loved.
troika said:
Another Chelsea tractor to clog up the roads of the south east. I can’t see many original Defender users buying one. Most have gone Japanese and there is no way back to LR after that.
Don't count your chickens... I'm an 'original Defender' user, considering buying one. 
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NomduJour said:
Just checking - is this another thread where people who have never bought a new Land Rover, and who never will, are telling Land Rover that they won’t buy their new car because they won’t be able to pressure wash the dashboard in the Outback?
It seems that way 
They are never going to build a car that has a pick up option for throwing sheep in, all the nostalgic types need to get real.
Presumably it'll have options like front and rear winches? Otherwise it can hardly claim to be "more capable" than the old Defender.
I'm sure JLR have done their market research and produced something which will sell. The question is to whom and for what purpose. I can't see them coaxing the farmers I know out of their Japanese pickups. I suspect it's going to turn out to be a road biased SUV which has a decent off-road capability for something so road-biased. Basically a cut-price Range Rover, I suppose.
I'm sure JLR have done their market research and produced something which will sell. The question is to whom and for what purpose. I can't see them coaxing the farmers I know out of their Japanese pickups. I suspect it's going to turn out to be a road biased SUV which has a decent off-road capability for something so road-biased. Basically a cut-price Range Rover, I suppose.
Edited by kambites on Tuesday 30th April 09:30
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