RE: Ford details new 7.3-litre (!) V8 truck engine

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That engine is nothing without the ironic humour and engineering know-how of this thread!

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untakenname said:

At under 60hp per litre it seems like a retrograde step to take considering Ford are making a big deal out of their electric F150 being able to pull million pound freight trains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg

I posted that video a couple of days ago. As a new thread. It went some days with zero comments, so I deleted it. Pity, really, because there's a lot to discuss in that "branded content" infotainment about a future all-electric F-150.

Now... About the 7.30-litre...

Keep in mind that this engine is under-stressed by design. As others here have already posted, this engine will be brilliant for particular use-cases and for many years to come. Affordable maintenance. Essentially no maintenance.

[NDNDNDND]

Integroo said:

Swalsey said:

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

I am sure we could all drive Toyota Prius' and the world would be a less polluted place.

None of us want to though ...

Oh, you know what environmentalists are like. They're the same as vegans and Jehovah's witnesses. They want everyone to be just like them because misery loves company...

[anonymous-user]

unsprung said:

untakenname said:

At under 60hp per litre it seems like a retrograde step to take considering Ford are making a big deal out of their electric F150 being able to pull million pound freight trains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg

I posted that video a couple of days ago. As a new thread. It went some days with zero comments, so I deleted it. Pity, really, because there's a lot to discuss in that "branded content" infotainment about a future all-electric F-150.

Now... About the 7.30-litre...

Keep in mind that this engine is under-stressed by design. As others here have already posted, this engine will be brilliant for particular use-cases and for many years to come. Affordable maintenance. Essentially no maintenance.

Well until I saw this message I was thinking about trying to tow some railway carriages..

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La Liga said:

Well until I saw this message I was thinking about trying to tow some railway carriages..

as one does

[Chestrockwell]

Swalsey said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Rest of the world - human action is destroying the planet, what can we do
Merica - bigger engines !

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

Don’t see how the engine in this is any worse than the multiple twin turbo V8’s being offered by the Germans

[300bhp/ton]

Swalsey said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Rest of the world - human action is destroying the planet, what can we do
Merica - bigger engines !

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

You sound rather clueless. Lift up the rock you are under and have a look about will ya!!

[300bhp/ton]

untakenname said:

At under 60hp per litre it seems like a retrograde step to take considering Ford are making a big deal out of their electric F150 being able to pull million pound freight trains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg

Well no not really.

Looking only at specific output is rather naive and somewhat missing the point. Engines are about far more than headline figures. And a broad large torque curve is more than likely what they were after. Something high specific output in unable to provide in n/a format.

And as the electric truck. Yes very cool. But Ford know as well as most others, that while EV's are impressive and great for marketing and company prestige. They just aren't really all that viable for a frickin huge percentage of buyers and the population.

[300bhp/ton]

Chestrockwell said:

Swalsey said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

Rest of the world - human action is destroying the planet, what can we do
Merica - bigger engines !

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

Don’t see how the engine in this is any worse than the multiple twin turbo V8’s being offered by the Germans

It isn't. And that is likely it's entire purpose. It is designed as a workhorse. Being large displacement na and unstressed, means it should be dependable and durable. While being less complex to produce than twin turbo setups, cheaper to produce and the same benefits in maintenance.

[ghost83]

America rly is great I wish they would bring these big trucks here!

You have to laugh that over there you have things like this you don’t pay for bags at Walmart you can legally own a AR10/15 and fuel is stupidly cheap,

yet in England and the eu we get totally bent over

[Swalsey]

aeropilot said:

Swalsey said:

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

I guess you've not spent much time in the USA then to understand that there really isn't much 'decent car' option (actually none) that would stand a chance of coping what most Americans subject their pick-ups to.

I didn’t think people would read what I read very carefully - that’s not what I’m referring to. I’ve no doubt that some people justify them but I stand by my point - ‘when a decent car will do’ means I’m addressing needless excess, like commuting, shopping and towing caravans the size of a bungalow. What I said about any thirsty motor means people who have no conscience about rolling around doing 25mpg / less on mundane journeys - it’s needless excess.

For the other replies, yes I’m sure I can take an interest on Pistonheads - I can enjoy my relatively frugal sports car for a few thousand miles a year and my very frugal daily driver without bragging about how many gallons per mile I did. Pistonheads also covers electric cars and hot hatches - are you sure it is for you if you like 7.3 V8s? 😉

I know that some people don’t care and roll around with V8 daily drivers but I don’t like extra waste for the sake of it so I’ll pipe up when I feel like it ta 😁

[Triumph Man]

hot diggidy dang! It's nice to see people still putting good old, large, unstressed engines in stuff like this.

[anonymous-user]

Thank you Electronicpants - I now have "Camptown Ladies" stuck in my head.

Don't see the issue with this vehicle - it's designed to be a low stress working vehicle, using less fuel per mile than a trackday "toy" usefully going round in circles.
Horses for courses.

[Dave Hedgehog]

untakenname said:

At under 60hp per litre it seems like a retrograde step to take considering Ford are making a big deal out of their electric F150 being able to pull million pound freight trains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg

the maths showing most cars could have pulled the train, but it is good that ford are making an EV option and i suspect this type of stunt will impress most MAGA hat wearing F150 buyers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au3U72CX74I

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Swalsey said:

aeropilot said:

Swalsey said:

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

I guess you've not spent much time in the USA then to understand that there really isn't much 'decent car' option (actually none) that would stand a chance of coping what most Americans subject their pick-ups to.

I didn’t think people would read what I read very carefully - that’s not what I’m referring to. I’ve no doubt that some people justify them but I stand by my point - ‘when a decent car will do’ means I’m addressing needless excess, like commuting, shopping and towing caravans the size of a bungalow. What I said about any thirsty motor means people who have no conscience about rolling around doing 25mpg / less on mundane journeys - it’s needless excess.

For the other replies, yes I’m sure I can take an interest on Pistonheads - I can enjoy my relatively frugal sports car for a few thousand miles a year and my very frugal daily driver without bragging about how many gallons per mile I did. Pistonheads also covers electric cars and hot hatches - are you sure it is for you if you like 7.3 V8s? ??

I know that some people don’t care and roll around with V8 daily drivers but I don’t like extra waste for the sake of it so I’ll pipe up when I feel like it ta ??

And naturally, this being a forum, others can pipe up in response to what you've said too...

[300bhp/ton]

Swalsey said:

aeropilot said:

Swalsey said:

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

I guess you've not spent much time in the USA then to understand that there really isn't much 'decent car' option (actually none) that would stand a chance of coping what most Americans subject their pick-ups to.

I didn’t think people would read what I read very carefully - that’s not what I’m referring to. I’ve no doubt that some people justify them but I stand by my point - ‘when a decent car will do’ means I’m addressing needless excess, like commuting, shopping and towing caravans the size of a bungalow. What I said about any thirsty motor means people who have no conscience about rolling around doing 25mpg / less on mundane journeys - it’s needless excess.

For the other replies, yes I’m sure I can take an interest on Pistonheads - I can enjoy my relatively frugal sports car for a few thousand miles a year and my very frugal daily driver without bragging about how many gallons per mile I did. Pistonheads also covers electric cars and hot hatches - are you sure it is for you if you like 7.3 V8s? ??

I know that some people don’t care and roll around with V8 daily drivers but I don’t like extra waste for the sake of it so I’ll pipe up when I feel like it ta ??

What a load of tosh!!!!

Maybe you should not post on the internet as you are wasting electricity and using components that could have been saved for something else instead of excess for you to burn time on.

[Triumph Man]

Swalsey said:

aeropilot said:

Swalsey said:

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

I guess you've not spent much time in the USA then to understand that there really isn't much 'decent car' option (actually none) that would stand a chance of coping what most Americans subject their pick-ups to.

I didn’t think people would read what I read very carefully - that’s not what I’m referring to. I’ve no doubt that some people justify them but I stand by my point - ‘when a decent car will do’ means I’m addressing needless excess, like commuting, shopping and towing caravans the size of a bungalow. What I said about any thirsty motor means people who have no conscience about rolling around doing 25mpg / less on mundane journeys - it’s needless excess.

For the other replies, yes I’m sure I can take an interest on Pistonheads - I can enjoy my relatively frugal sports car for a few thousand miles a year and my very frugal daily driver without bragging about how many gallons per mile I did. Pistonheads also covers electric cars and hot hatches - are you sure it is for you if you like 7.3 V8s? ??

I know that some people don’t care and roll around with V8 daily drivers but I don’t like extra waste for the sake of it so I’ll pipe up when I feel like it ta ??

You won't like me who uses a BMW that does 28 mpg as my daily then...

[aeropilot]

Swalsey said:

aeropilot said:

Swalsey said:

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

I guess you've not spent much time in the USA then to understand that there really isn't much 'decent car' option (actually none) that would stand a chance of coping what most Americans subject their pick-ups to.

I didn’t think people would read what I read very carefully - that’s not what I’m referring to. I’ve no doubt that some people justify them but I stand by my point - ‘when a decent car will do’ means I’m addressing needless excess, like commuting, shopping and towing caravans the size of a bungalow. What I said about any thirsty motor means people who have no conscience about rolling around doing 25mpg / less on mundane journeys - it’s needless excess.

Like I said, you've clearly not spent much time (if any in the USA) and clearly don't understand the market and needs of that market, so making comments like that just makes you look a knob.

There's more to the world than the small cozy part of the UK that you inhabit.

[Krikkit]

aeropilot said:

Swalsey said:

aeropilot said:

Swalsey said:

Exactly. Gotta love Americans? No. Any person anywhere daily driving massive trucks or any thirsty motor when a decent car would do needs to have a word with themselves IMO.

I guess you've not spent much time in the USA then to understand that there really isn't much 'decent car' option (actually none) that would stand a chance of coping what most Americans subject their pick-ups to.

I didn’t think people would read what I read very carefully - that’s not what I’m referring to. I’ve no doubt that some people justify them but I stand by my point - ‘when a decent car will do’ means I’m addressing needless excess, like commuting, shopping and towing caravans the size of a bungalow. What I said about any thirsty motor means people who have no conscience about rolling around doing 25mpg / less on mundane journeys - it’s needless excess.

Like I said, you've clearly not spent much time (if any in the USA) and clearly don't understand the market and needs of that market, so making comments like that just makes you look a knob.

There's more to the world than the small cozy part of the UK that you inhabit.

Not to mention that a pickup with an engine like this which lasts for 500,000 miles of abuse is going to be more environmentally friendly when considered end-to-end than building a whole new one when a fancy direct-injected twin turbo diesel lunches itself at 250,000 miles.

[loveice]

untakenname said:

At under 60hp per litre it seems like a retrograde step to take considering Ford are making a big deal out of their electric F150 being able to pull million pound freight trains.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXFHgoon7lg

I suggest you have a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg7m5GDNeac&t=...