RE: Bugatti Chiron Sport | Driven
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E65Ross said:
Sorry, I was being a bit facetious. It was how you said "as a driver....." which inferred that anyone who was a "driver" wouldn't have any interest in driving one.
That inference certainly wasn't the intent, although now you say it I can see how someone could take it that way. 
kambites said:
E65Ross said:
Sorry, I was being a bit facetious. It was how you said "as a driver....." which inferred that anyone who was a "driver" wouldn't have any interest in driving one.
That inference certainly wasn't the intent, although now you say it I can see how someone could take it that way. 
kambites said:
2 GKC said:
kambites said:
As a driver, these thing don't appeal in the slightest but as an engineer it's an absolutely mind-blowing vehicle, which I suppose is the whole point, really. I wonder if this will turn out to be last of breed as EVs taken over the mantle in the next generation.
First sentence seems a strange thing to say - you've no interest in driving one then?Fascinating engineering, fugly car.
Nicely written article.
As for the car, well, as everyone has said, it is an engineering masterpiece, but honestly, even if you owned one, would you ever really be able to enjoy it ? Where can you ever use a fraction of it's power ( and I suspect that a race track is not really it's natural habitat ).
Maybe it's just me, but I would feel way to self conscious just sitting in it in traffic ( and I have been fortunate enough to have been for long tours in many a supercar, including an EB 110 ).
Still, to each their own....
As for the car, well, as everyone has said, it is an engineering masterpiece, but honestly, even if you owned one, would you ever really be able to enjoy it ? Where can you ever use a fraction of it's power ( and I suspect that a race track is not really it's natural habitat ).
Maybe it's just me, but I would feel way to self conscious just sitting in it in traffic ( and I have been fortunate enough to have been for long tours in many a supercar, including an EB 110 ).
Still, to each their own....
Well written, interesting story. Would be nice to see a bit more of this sort of narrative, although the opportunity to drive a Chiron probably doesn't come along every day!
The Veyron never really did anything for me, but there is something I like more about the Chiron. It's still not really my sort of car in a way, but you can't deny how impressive it is.
The Veyron never really did anything for me, but there is something I like more about the Chiron. It's still not really my sort of car in a way, but you can't deny how impressive it is.
E65Ross said:
2 GKC said:
kambites said:
As a driver, these thing don't appeal in the slightest but as an engineer it's an absolutely mind-blowing vehicle, which I suppose is the whole point, really. I wonder if this will turn out to be last of breed as EVs taken over the mantle in the next generation.
First sentence seems a strange thing to say - you've no interest in driving one then?C.MW said:
Very fast on a straight line, not so great in corners, isn't it some sort of a lavish, glorified version of american muscle car concept, except these are made on the other side of the planet?
I have to say it certainly does one thing extremely well: looking ugly.
You need to watch Henry Catchpole/Carfection's B road drive videoI have to say it certainly does one thing extremely well: looking ugly.
Krikkit said:
kambites said:
As a driver, these thing don't appeal in the slightest but as an engineer it's an absolutely mind-blowing vehicle, which I suppose is the whole point, really. I wonder if this will turn out to be last of breed as EVs taken over the mantle in the next generation.
I thought that as well, but from Chris Harris' (and a few others) reviews it sounds like the Chiron is a hoot to drive as well.I don't think 1500hp in something so wonderfully civilised would ever get tiresome.
C.MW said it's not good in the corners, now there is an expert we should all be listening too
Henry Catchpole said it was a lot better in the corners than the Veryron and handled better than he expected.
I guess though for us better than average drivers ( aren't we all?) but not super driving gods what you want of a car like this is something that does not dance at the limits but is well tied down and gives you confidence. This car seems to give drivers confidence with the power and mass and grip. Which is what the owners no doubt want, the ones who drive it. It's a niche car and it fills that niche very well it seems.
I have to say the looks are growing on me and it certainly doesn't look like a design that borrows from other cars.
My 2 issues with it are that I prefer for a Sunday morning drive a nice twisty B road and given that, the width and being right hand drive of the car would make me rather nervous what was coming the other way. I could move to the NW of Scotland to giver better visibility and remove hawthorn branches etc etc I guess.
PS Nice read, the sort of "we could have been doing that with Andy" vibe meant we all put ourselves in your place, which is always what the writer should do.
I guess though for us better than average drivers ( aren't we all?) but not super driving gods what you want of a car like this is something that does not dance at the limits but is well tied down and gives you confidence. This car seems to give drivers confidence with the power and mass and grip. Which is what the owners no doubt want, the ones who drive it. It's a niche car and it fills that niche very well it seems.
I have to say the looks are growing on me and it certainly doesn't look like a design that borrows from other cars.
My 2 issues with it are that I prefer for a Sunday morning drive a nice twisty B road and given that, the width and being right hand drive of the car would make me rather nervous what was coming the other way. I could move to the NW of Scotland to giver better visibility and remove hawthorn branches etc etc I guess.
PS Nice read, the sort of "we could have been doing that with Andy" vibe meant we all put ourselves in your place, which is always what the writer should do.
Edited by Gandahar on Tuesday 6th August 13:01
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
Krikkit said:
kambites said:
As a driver, these thing don't appeal in the slightest but as an engineer it's an absolutely mind-blowing vehicle, which I suppose is the whole point, really. I wonder if this will turn out to be last of breed as EVs taken over the mantle in the next generation.
I thought that as well, but from Chris Harris' (and a few others) reviews it sounds like the Chiron is a hoot to drive as well.I don't think 1500hp in something so wonderfully civilised would ever get tiresome.
C.MW said it's not good in the corners, now there is an expert we should all be listening too
Jokes aside, everything is relative. For example, an Audi RS3 has decent handling characteristics/capabilities in isolation but fall short of the standard set by the segment's best like the Honda Civic Type R. Likewise, the Chiron would handle well for a car that weighs as much as it does but wouldn't be able to hold a candle to lighter, less powerful supercars in that regard. Simple.
sidesauce said:
C.MW said:
ruprechtmonkeyboy said:
Krikkit said:
kambites said:
As a driver, these thing don't appeal in the slightest but as an engineer it's an absolutely mind-blowing vehicle, which I suppose is the whole point, really. I wonder if this will turn out to be last of breed as EVs taken over the mantle in the next generation.
I thought that as well, but from Chris Harris' (and a few others) reviews it sounds like the Chiron is a hoot to drive as well.I don't think 1500hp in something so wonderfully civilised would ever get tiresome.
C.MW said it's not good in the corners, now there is an expert we should all be listening too
Jokes aside, everything is relative. For example, an Audi RS3 has decent handling characteristics/capabilities in isolation but fall short of the standard set by the segment's best like the Honda Civic Type R. Likewise, the Chiron would handle well for a car that weighs as much as it does but wouldn't be able to hold a candle to lighter, less powerful supercars in that regard. Simple.
sidesauce said:
I think you're missing the point somewhat - the Chiron isn't designed to be the last word in handling - it's designed to be a luxury car that happens to be more powerful than anything else ever created for normal day-to-day road use - not withstanding the astronimical running costs, one can really use this car every single day if one wanted to.
As long as you don't want to carry anything bigger than a laptop bag. It has less than half the boot space of my Elise. I guess you can view it as the ultimate commuter vehicle since most people don't actually take much stuff to work with them. Of course that's missing the point rather - its primary purpose is to demonstrate what VAG's engineers are capable of and it does an exceptional job of that.
sidesauce said:
kambites said:
As long as you don't want to carry anything bigger than a laptop bag. It has less than half the boot space of my Elise.
Yes and seeing as its engine is more than 4 times the size of the one in your Elise, I guess the bootspace had to go!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fC0oJLZq1TU
as a poultice to getting repetitive strain injury he risks after 58 000 posts on here.
I bet the top of his head is not even tanned whilst the rest of him is as white as a ghost like every other elise driver I have ever met.
The last time he took the car out on the road rather than posting on here? 2015
"Well, the roof is a bit tricky"
MX5 mate
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