RE: Porsche Cayenne Turbo S E-Hybrid Coupe | Driven
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pb8g09 said:
Funnily enough I was just thinking about the borkage costs on something like this after warranty as I was reading. Will certainly make for some interesting Brave Pill articles in 10 years!
Why? The Porsche warranty can be extended up to 15 years. I think it's about £1,800 every 2 years. Hardly terrifying. ROSS-ncbaf said:
Excessive car weight needs taxing. A lot. A 2500kg car like this wears out the road 5.76x more than a typical, 1600kg car.
Blame potholes on tw&ts in SUV's.
I was thinking of blaming lorries more than SUVs to be honest.Blame potholes on tw&ts in SUV's.
Just out of curiosity, where did the 5.76x come into it? I would assume that it's not just mass, but pressure as well....would wider tyres help, because the mass is over a larger surface area?
CoolHands said:
Co2 b
ks should go. Surely vehicles should be measured by how much energy they need to move. This 2.5 tonne behemoth would be right up there.
it's a scam for company car tax and emissions zone exception ks should go. Surely vehicles should be measured by how much energy they need to move. This 2.5 tonne behemoth would be right up there.we never even charged our mercedes 350e once and to be honest it was a s
te car RobEB said:
I'd bet that thing goes through its brake pads once every year or faster, given the weight it's got to stop every time.
Whilst I agree with the logic of your argument, you would be surprised at the amount of 'slowing down' that's provided by the hybrid system when it's regenerating electricity (and not using the conventional brakes at all). So, unless you drive it everywhere like your hair is on fire, it will probably be very kind on brakes.I suspect that the majority of these will be driven below the ferocity required to dislodge the Louis Vuitton handbag from the passenger seat.
drpep said:
What a bizarre world we live in. The days in which a 2.5 tonne SUV, returns < 85g CO2/Km, and also produces 680hp, getting you to 60 in 3.8s. That's a second quicker than an E92 M3. Crazy times indeed.
This will make a wonderfully comfy grand tourer, albeit somewhat removed from the experience of traveling quickly. Coming to a Waitrose car park near you, soon.
I do not believe in 85g figure.This will make a wonderfully comfy grand tourer, albeit somewhat removed from the experience of traveling quickly. Coming to a Waitrose car park near you, soon.
WCZ said:
CoolHands said:
Co2 bks should go. Surely vehicles should be measured by how much energy they need to move. This 2.5 tonne behemoth would be right up there.
it's a scam for company car tax and emissions zone exception ks should go. Surely vehicles should be measured by how much energy they need to move. This 2.5 tonne behemoth would be right up there.we never even charged our mercedes 350e once and to be honest it was a s
te car There was an article somewhere describing how companies bought hybrids for tax purposes and after years of use the load power cable were lying around in the trunks still unpacked.
In my opinion the 85g figure is also a lie.
Ho Lee Kau said:
There was an article somewhere describing how companies bought hybrids for tax purposes and after years of use the load power cable were lying around in the trunks still unpacked.
In my opinion the 85g figure is also a lie.
That loophole got knocked on the head, so that's not the purpose here. The company car BIK brackets are based on EV range now, and you need 140+ miles of range to get a decent benefit bracket, which no hybrid can do. A much better system if you ask me.In my opinion the 85g figure is also a lie.
This thing looks to be to be less about emissions and more about bolting on another 100kW of power to bring the numbers up to match the competition. Can't see anything wrong with that.
TartanPaint said:
That loophole got knocked on the head, so that's not the purpose here. The company car BIK brackets are based on EV range now, and you need 140+ miles of range to get a decent benefit bracket, which no hybrid can do. A much better system if you ask me.
incorrect - need less than 50g/km for electric range to be relevant to bik - anything above that the pure electric range is irrelevant. See https://pod-point.com/guides/business/company-elec...I had an A3 e-Tron as a company car a couple of years ago. Electric only range was quoted as 32 miles but reality was more like 21-22. A little reduction in boot floor height as the fuel tank was moved forward (more under the rear seats) but for my 30 mile round trip I could get to work on a charge and on the way home, regent another 5 miles of electric. Was great on brakes as someone said, the regen takes up a lot of the slack. Car was maybe 18 months old when it developed a Hybrid System fault and it had to back to Audi Glasgow. None of the technicians were qualified to repair it and had to be quarantined and a specialist team from Milton Keynes had to come up to strip the battery out etc. They had the car just about 2 months in the end and provided me with a courtesy car for the duration (petrol A3 saloon). All in all, I was told if it wasn’t warranty, I’d not get much change out of £10k. Battery was £5 and a bit K ex VAT (if I recall correctly) and labour, courtesy car etc. Bork factor would terrify me out of warranty.
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