RE: Lotus Carlton | Spotted

RE: Lotus Carlton | Spotted

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Cold

15,291 posts

92 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Why has that article plucked the performance figures out of a hat? Wouldn't it have been sensible to have used the real ones?

Leins

9,509 posts

150 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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It would be a hard choice for me between this, a B10 BiTurbo and a W124 AMG E60. I’d probably go for the Alpina myself

And just to re-use the question that always appears on M5 threads, why did Lotus not make an estate version?

Edited by Leins on Thursday 21st November 15:42

TIGA84

5,233 posts

233 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Always always wanted one.

I pass one most mornings in Leaves Green near Biggin Hill airport going out towards Westerham. Clearly a daily driver (driven by a chap certainly in his later years) and did manage to remember the reg one day and checked it out - was on something like 177,000 miles with a HUGE history.

Now has a dent in the door and is obviously properly used. See a classic Esprit, same sort of colour occasionally at the same sort of time and wonder if they're the same owner.

Also, was going to Goodwood MM a few months ago, early doors on the M25 in a C4S, not travelling especially slowly the same car came HAMMERING past, squatting on the rears and just fked off out of sight in seconds. Superb.




thiscocks

3,133 posts

197 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Cold said:
Why has that article plucked the performance figures out of a hat? Wouldn't it have been sensible to have used the real ones?
No Idea where they got them from.

From memory: 377bhp, 419 lbs ft

These prices are a piss take. A couple of years ago they were 50k absolute max for a sorted low mileage one. Just because one seller puts one up at 100k , now they all are. Cretins.

s m

23,309 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Cold said:
Why has that article plucked the performance figures out of a hat? Wouldn't it have been sensible to have used the real ones?
I always enjoyed reading the PC test where they showed the timing slip printout.

‘Rain Stopped Play’ was probably my favourite article on them though.
‘Gruntcarlt’!!! cool

irocfan

40,832 posts

192 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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interestingly on faceache there was an RS2000 with delivery miles which went for £95k - I know what I'd rather have (hint: it isn't the frod)!

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

226 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Autocar did a superb write up back in '90, as they always did back then. 0-100 in 11.1 seconds.

cognac1979

106 posts

103 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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These prices are a piss take. A couple of years ago they were 50k absolute max for a sorted low mileage one. Just because one seller puts one up at 100k , now they all are. Cretins.
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Are some people actually paying the crazy prices advertised these days or are the cars being sold for much lower? I want to see the thread "I've just bought a Lotus Carlton for 95k". I don't think I will see such a thread though.

cookie1600

2,153 posts

163 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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£95K sure, in this crazy world this seems to be excellent value in comparison to other, lesser mortals. This is an iconic saloon, maybe THE iconic saloon and I just wish I'd have taken the plunge when they were more affordable and kept it for high days and holidays, appreciating nicely in a dry warm garage when I wasn't using it.

I was put off a little by the spares availability, dubious history of some cars, the unique, hard to find Lotus designed parts and stopping tea-leaves taking it and torching it after ragging it rotten.

If I had the funds it would definitely be part of my fantasy garage and possibly driven a lot more often than some of the others. Big thumbs up from me.

s m

23,309 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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markcoznottz said:
Autocar did a superb write up back in '90, as they always did back then. 0-100 in 11.1 seconds.
I remember them getting Richard Noble in to do a top speed run
Unlike CAR where they got Russell Bulgin to try and max it out on the Autobahn

skatty

491 posts

192 months

SpudLink

6,044 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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skatty said:
WTF! £150k !!!!!!

It’s an icon, sure, but that’s beyond insane.

spookly

4,042 posts

97 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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I wouldn't buy one for £30k, let alone that price.

They're a hot version of a junk car. They're not a looker. They aren't put together very well. A friend of mine had one many years ago.

Very quick in it's time. Not so much now, especially considering what you could buy with that money today.

No matter how much faster or rare it is, it's still a souped up Vauxhall repmobile. I'd imagine every non-Lotus Carlton of that vintage has long since been scrapped.

s m

23,309 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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cognac1979 said:
thiscocks said:
These prices are a piss take. A couple of years ago they were 50k absolute max for a sorted low mileage one. Just because one seller puts one up at 100k , now they all are. Cretins.
Are some people actually paying the crazy prices advertised these days or are the cars being sold for much lower? I want to see the thread "I've just bought a Lotus Carlton for 95k". I don't think I will see such a thread though.
Someone paid nearly £80k for one with 32000 miles last year so I guess the seller of this lower miles one thinks it’s worth asking

https://www.silverstoneauctions.com/events/2018-au...

lotuslover69

269 posts

145 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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Famously used in robberies across the UK, police couldn't keep up with them and there was a campaign to ban the Lotus Carlton.


s m

23,309 posts

205 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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lotuslover69 said:
Famously used in robberies across the UK, police couldn't keep up with them and there was a campaign to ban the Lotus Carlton.

I remember that from the news at the time plus the call in parliament to ban them!

They never caught that gang did they?

Dannbodge

2,172 posts

123 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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If I had the money I wouldn't even think twice about it.
One of the many cars I'd love to drive

ModernClassics

39 posts

105 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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We’ve got a particular fondness for it this month wink
That and the Alpina B10 Biturbo and Mercedes E500...

Gojira

899 posts

125 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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I had the MD of my local independent Vauxhall dealers offer to sell me his personal LC for about 17ish grand back in the mid-2000s

I ignored his advice, and bought a diesel Vectra instead eek

The LC would have probably been on my drive for less than a month before some scrote nicked it, but it's still the closest I come to regretting not buying a car...

tomic

720 posts

147 months

Thursday 21st November 2019
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After the BMW E30 325i that sold at auction a couple of weeks ago for £51k this doesn’t seem that outrageous.


https://www.carthrottle.com/post/e30-bmw-325i-spor...