RE: Bentley Flying Spur | PH Used Buying Guide
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big_rob_sydney said:
Water Fairy said:
FlukePlay said:
big_rob_sydney said:
FlukePlay said:
This looks splendid, I'd love one. With any car, my first thought is 'what would it be like on a drive from Calais to Como?' Want, need, desire and lust.
Hmm, I've driven multiple times from London to Desenzano before, and more recently to Benahavis. I will say this; it's a bloody long drive, and I wouldn't do it out of pure fun, because most of it is just motorway, cruise control, and tolls. As boring as bats
t.I'd respectfully say, find a twisty road to have some fun, and find a more nimble car. I wouldn't do those long distance runs anymore, if it weren't for the need to cart large amounts of luggage and / or people. Now that I'm in my 50's with a young family, flying has to be the answer if I want to avoid getting somewhere needing a chiro. My Japanese OHOS does the wafting job as well as any, but it's still not something I would voluntarily do.
Kudos to you if you're prepared to do that. Just send me the name of your medical team.
Chaps, I too live in Surrey, and I too was a motorcyclist till recently (some scrote stole my s1000rr). I think I should offer you guys an overnight stay at my place in the south of Spain (views of Africa on a clear day), and perhaps a drive down there in convoy at some point. Who knows, it could be the start of something interesting?
FlukePlay said:
big_rob_sydney said:
Water Fairy said:
FlukePlay said:
big_rob_sydney said:
FlukePlay said:
This looks splendid, I'd love one. With any car, my first thought is 'what would it be like on a drive from Calais to Como?' Want, need, desire and lust.
Hmm, I've driven multiple times from London to Desenzano before, and more recently to Benahavis. I will say this; it's a bloody long drive, and I wouldn't do it out of pure fun, because most of it is just motorway, cruise control, and tolls. As boring as batst.I'd respectfully say, find a twisty road to have some fun, and find a more nimble car. I wouldn't do those long distance runs anymore, if it weren't for the need to cart large amounts of luggage and / or people. Now that I'm in my 50's with a young family, flying has to be the answer if I want to avoid getting somewhere needing a chiro. My Japanese OHOS does the wafting job as well as any, but it's still not something I would voluntarily do.
Kudos to you if you're prepared to do that. Just send me the name of your medical team.
Chaps, I too live in Surrey, and I too was a motorcyclist till recently (some scrote stole my s1000rr). I think I should offer you guys an overnight stay at my place in the south of Spain (views of Africa on a clear day), and perhaps a drive down there in convoy at some point. Who knows, it could be the start of something interesting?
Calais to Guiselwind Germany, Davos, Zug Switzerland, Venice, Madrid, Prague, sth Poland and my usual drive down to Malaga (Fiesta or Focus for this one) all done in a new Transit and all in one hit.
Needing big power is a myth (you don't get there any quicker) my Transit is a 170 auto..
The thing that puts me off is the cost of ownership which is always cited for the first generation as being utterly terrifying.
I realise that these are complex vehicles, but I remain stunned at the lack of thought that goes into making them long term manageable, with terrifying spare parts costs and packaging of components in the engines and body that make apparently routine maintenance a hugely expensive task.
The other day I had to change a bulb in both my E39 (1 minute job with rear light cluster brilliantly designed to make it simple and front headlights just a twist solution) and on a relatives 3-series, a right fiddle as it's a generation later!!
Now I'm not advocating home spannering a Bentley, but if the thought had gone into life of these cars at 5-10 years the whole residual would be more robust because reduced cost of ownership would stop them becoming unwanted money pits and also create a real pull through of dedicated second hand buyers.
Yes of course sour grapes - I would love one but simply couldn't stomach the unexpected bill, but surely some new buyers must be put off by the savage depreciation. I often hear people say car companies are not really interested in the 3rd buyer of one of their products - I would argue that they are very important and companies that realise the support these consumers offer the 1st buyer financially will be more robust.
I realise that these are complex vehicles, but I remain stunned at the lack of thought that goes into making them long term manageable, with terrifying spare parts costs and packaging of components in the engines and body that make apparently routine maintenance a hugely expensive task.
The other day I had to change a bulb in both my E39 (1 minute job with rear light cluster brilliantly designed to make it simple and front headlights just a twist solution) and on a relatives 3-series, a right fiddle as it's a generation later!!
Now I'm not advocating home spannering a Bentley, but if the thought had gone into life of these cars at 5-10 years the whole residual would be more robust because reduced cost of ownership would stop them becoming unwanted money pits and also create a real pull through of dedicated second hand buyers.
Yes of course sour grapes - I would love one but simply couldn't stomach the unexpected bill, but surely some new buyers must be put off by the savage depreciation. I often hear people say car companies are not really interested in the 3rd buyer of one of their products - I would argue that they are very important and companies that realise the support these consumers offer the 1st buyer financially will be more robust.
A1VDY said:
For those that don't do much or any Euro driving you don't need anything special to do it.
Calais to Guiselwind Germany, Davos, Zug Switzerland, Venice, Madrid, Prague, sth Poland and my usual drive down to Malaga (Fiesta or Focus for this one) all done in a new Transit and all in one hit.
Needing big power is a myth (you don't get there any quicker) my Transit is a 170 auto..
You don't get to New York with BA any quicker sitting in 1st Class but it's a much more pleasant experience than sitting in steerage.Calais to Guiselwind Germany, Davos, Zug Switzerland, Venice, Madrid, Prague, sth Poland and my usual drive down to Malaga (Fiesta or Focus for this one) all done in a new Transit and all in one hit.
Needing big power is a myth (you don't get there any quicker) my Transit is a 170 auto..
Kipsrs said:
“easily out drags a cayman” . . . rather a silly comment in my opinion.
One wouldn’t buy a Flying Spur to ‘out drag’ anything, one would buy a Flying Spur to cruise around sedately and in pure luxury not to be bothered with racing or even worrying what the right foot is capable of, surely?
Pretty sure that Sir Tim Birkin and the Bentley Boys would disagree with you there.One wouldn’t buy a Flying Spur to ‘out drag’ anything, one would buy a Flying Spur to cruise around sedately and in pure luxury not to be bothered with racing or even worrying what the right foot is capable of, surely?
Numeric said:
Now I'm not advocating home spannering a Bentley, but if the thought had gone into life of these cars at 5-10 years the whole residual would be more robust because reduced cost of ownership would stop them becoming unwanted money pits and also create a real pull through of dedicated second hand buyers.
Yes of course sour grapes - I would love one but simply couldn't stomach the unexpected bill, but surely some new buyers must be put off by the savage depreciation. I often hear people say car companies are not really interested in the 3rd buyer of one of their products - I would argue that they are very important and companies that realise the support these consumers offer the 1st buyer financially will be more robust.
The other thing is that the folks who buy a used one may choose to buy a new one in the future. Wallop them with bills and make ownership a misery and that cash won’t be heading your way.Yes of course sour grapes - I would love one but simply couldn't stomach the unexpected bill, but surely some new buyers must be put off by the savage depreciation. I often hear people say car companies are not really interested in the 3rd buyer of one of their products - I would argue that they are very important and companies that realise the support these consumers offer the 1st buyer financially will be more robust.
Good customer service - as an example - is also useful. I sent a couple of questions to Princess yachts via an info at email address earlier this year about my boat - 45 years old. I wasn’t expecting much and it was out of hope (and boredom). I was very surprised to get a reply from their Head of Sales, who had gone away and spoken to one of the original founders of the company to answer my query. I won’t be in the market for a new boat for 15-20 years but effort like that to support their legacy vehicles is really impressive and if/when I am in the market they have to have improved their chance of getting the sale.
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