RE: Jaguar E-Type Reborn | PH Review

RE: Jaguar E-Type Reborn | PH Review

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politeperson

547 posts

182 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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sam greenock said:
"As a Brit, is it possible to not like the Jaguar E-Type? It's surely up there with sugary tea, toad-in-the-hole and David Beckham as one of our national institutions......"

I think the author will find that David Beckham isn't a "national institution" in Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland, although I suspect he'll probably have to have it explained to him why that is

Same with "toad-in-the-hole" - can't say I've ever fallen over the mass queues in eateries in Glasgow, Derry, Colraine Cardiff, or Lerwick all after "toad-in-the-hole" I've never even seen it on a menu

The car is glorious though
Quite right Sam, stuff toad -in-the hole, the doner kebab is now the national food, its official. That's all four "countries".

As for 0-60, I dont know. Here is me having a go!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi-9PyV1n98

I moved the wheels out a bit on this white one below. Easily done.


binnerboy

486 posts

151 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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My wife's uncles makes low drag etypes. i hadn't come across them before meeting him

I always liked the etype but the low drag version being lower and wider and with filled arches just looks so much better to me

would I prefer a reborn etype to a 720S ? yes

but if i had the money I would get an FIA compliant low drag coupe and go racing

Hammerhead

2,701 posts

255 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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What a beautiful car 8 ) I'm another who'd have this over any modern supercar, given the means! As to comments about the wheels looking set too inboard, I've always liked that aspect as it mirrors a Jagaur, or any other cat, in the crouching position, muscles flexed (curvy wings) above its powerful paws (wheels), ready to pounce!


sam greenock

294 posts

121 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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ettore said:
sam greenock said:
"As a Brit, is it possible to not like the Jaguar E-Type? It's surely up there with sugary tea, toad-in-the-hole and David Beckham as one of our national institutions......"

I think the author will find that David Beckham isn't a "national institution" in Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland, although I suspect he'll probably have to have it explained to him why that is

Same with "toad-in-the-hole" - can't say I've ever fallen over the mass queues in eateries in Glasgow, Derry, Colraine Cardiff, or Lerwick all after "toad-in-the-hole" I've never even seen it on a menu

The car is glorious though
Chip McChip
Think you'll find it's a lack of accuracy, ignorance and awareness that's the issue

Soem people seem to conflate England or the people of England with "Britain" and "Brits" - when, to be accurate there isn't really such a country as "Britain ( great or otherwise) or"Brits" either - it's just sheer laziness and ignorance.

Imagine if the author had called the car a Vauxhall, a Reliant or some other "Brit" make, or perish the thought, said it was European - would no one care? All the "little englanders/britlanders" would be choking on their "toad-in-the-hole" in abject horror?

sean ie3

2,087 posts

137 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Love the E type, series1 FHC is my favourite, classic lines still seen on sports/GT cars today !!

JDMSnowMonkey

11 posts

51 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Back when I was a very young kid in the early 2000's, my Dad owned a 1965 Series 1 E-Type 4.2 Coupe in Dark Blue, and the early memories I have of being taken out for rides in it cemented my love of cars, without doubt. The rattle and coughing of the engine on startup and the whine of the non-synchro 1st-gear are memories etched into my brain. It was a mechanically-tired but structurally-sound example that he eventually sold in 2006 for about £17,000. I'll bet he wishes he held onto it!

ettore

4,163 posts

253 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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sam greenock said:
ettore said:
sam greenock said:
"As a Brit, is it possible to not like the Jaguar E-Type? It's surely up there with sugary tea, toad-in-the-hole and David Beckham as one of our national institutions......"

I think the author will find that David Beckham isn't a "national institution" in Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland, although I suspect he'll probably have to have it explained to him why that is

Same with "toad-in-the-hole" - can't say I've ever fallen over the mass queues in eateries in Glasgow, Derry, Colraine Cardiff, or Lerwick all after "toad-in-the-hole" I've never even seen it on a menu

The car is glorious though
Chip McChip
Think you'll find it's a lack of accuracy, ignorance and awareness that's the issue

Soem people seem to conflate England or the people of England with "Britain" and "Brits" - when, to be accurate there isn't really such a country as "Britain ( great or otherwise) or"Brits" either - it's just sheer laziness and ignorance.

Imagine if the author had called the car a Vauxhall, a Reliant or some other "Brit" make, or perish the thought, said it was European - would no one care? All the "little englanders/britlanders" would be choking on their "toad-in-the-hole" in abject horror?
No, it was a tossy, chippy comment to which I replied with a wky response. Which you know.

Plenty of people and things are identified (self or otherwise) as Brits or British without disappearing down the plughole of bks bigotry. I dare say the English footballer, David Beckham, has plenty of fans throughout the UK for his other achievements. I dare say the English E Type is mainly considered British and, frankly, toad-in-the-hole isn't a feature of many menu's anywhere.

The original article was lazy but a shame to reduce it to this rubbish.

bigothunter

11,425 posts

61 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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I was a kid when the E-Type was released to the British market on a beautiful sunny day in July 1961. I can remember the press articles and where I was at the time. It was so exciting - best new car release ever thumbup

Deranged Rover

3,427 posts

75 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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That's a really impressive piece of engineering work and the price doesn't seem unreasonably outrageous for what you're getting.

Sadly, they still don't seem to have been able to address the E-Type's main flaw, which is that it's a hideous looking thing.

waynecyclist

8,962 posts

115 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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I think an Eagle version would be my choice, the slightly wider wheels look better plus modern upgrades make the car more useable.

bigothunter

11,425 posts

61 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Deranged Rover said:
Sadly, they still don't seem to have been able to address the E-Type's main flaw, which is that it's a hideous looking thing.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. For example, some people like Range Rovers hehe

threespires

4,302 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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JDMSnowMonkey said:
Back when I was a very young kid in the early 2000's, my Dad owned a 1965 Series 1 E-Type 4.2 Coupe in Dark Blue, and the early memories I have of being taken out for rides in it cemented my love of cars, without doubt. The rattle and coughing of the engine on startup and the whine of the non-synchro 1st-gear are memories etched into my brain. It was a mechanically-tired but structurally-sound example that he eventually sold in 2006 for about £17,000. I'll bet he wishes he held onto it!
"the whine of the non-synchro 1st-gear"
4.2 had synchro on 1st.
3.8 with Moss 'box didn't.

threespires

4,302 posts

212 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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bigothunter said:
I was a kid when the E-Type was released to the British market on a beautiful sunny day in July 1961. I can remember the press articles and where I was at the time. It was so exciting - best new car release ever thumbup
Jaguar E Type 17 March 1961


Sporky

6,445 posts

65 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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sam greenock said:
to be accurate there isn't really such a country as "Britain ( great or otherwise) or"Brits" either
That's not very accurate. On my passport my nationality is listed as "British citizen", so my being a "Brit" is a matter of official record.

neutral 3

6,504 posts

171 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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JDMSnowMonkey said:
Back when I was a very young kid in the early 2000's, my Dad owned a 1965 Series 1 E-Type 4.2 Coupe in Dark Blue, and the early memories I have of being taken out for rides in it cemented my love of cars, without doubt. The rattle and coughing of the engine on startup and the whine of the non-synchro 1st-gear are memories etched into my brain. It was a mechanically-tired but structurally-sound example that he eventually sold in 2006 for about £17,000. I'll bet he wishes he held onto it!
The very last few of the 3.8 cars, got the Lovely, All Syncro gear box. Only the 3.8 cars, got the awful Moss, gear box.

Xfe

257 posts

77 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Matt Bird said:
is it possible to not like
curse

donutskidmark

1,206 posts

154 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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sam greenock said:
"As a Brit, is it possible to not like the Jaguar E-Type? It's surely up there with sugary tea, toad-in-the-hole and David Beckham as one of our national institutions......"

I think the author will find that David Beckham isn't a "national institution" in Wales, Northern Ireland or Scotland, although I suspect he'll probably have to have it explained to him why that is

Same with "toad-in-the-hole" - can't say I've ever fallen over the mass queues in eateries in Glasgow, Derry, Colraine Cardiff, or Lerwick all after "toad-in-the-hole" I've never even seen it on a menu

The car is glorious though
I have to agree regarding the assertion David Beckham is a ‘national institution’ - personally I think he’s 100% cringe on every level.
Lovely car though.......but for that money I’d prefer an original factory spec mint Series 1 3.8 FHC in opalescent silver blue with about
150k change.

neutral 3

6,504 posts

171 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Me in 1969, with my Late Dads first of three E - Types, LFL 670F ( Where Are You Now ??? ) a British racing green / suede green trim, September 1967 registered, S.1 4.2 coupe.
The guy in the hat, is his pal, Paul.

JohnnyF2

153 posts

183 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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Callum43 said:
I think the only issue with an E-Type from a looks point of view is the inset wheels . A Lightweight always had it just right . Other than that , and bearing in mind how it made everything else on the market that was remotely affordable seem at the time, it still was unique then and remains so now. As a buyer of a new one back in the mid sixties it seems so strange to have been able to afford it then and now see how the market values them . Much as I love the Reborn ethos you’ve really got to want one very badly at these prices .
But how wonderful it was back in the day to be able to drive them as intended and to this day remains the quickest motoring I’ve ever had on UK roads . In retrospect the E-Type represents the spirit of those times to me and I feel fortunate to have experienced it first hand . Nostalgia over and done with for the day !
I remember my old boss where I used to walk telling me how he always wanted an E-Type when he was a young fellow back in the late 60's. He was an ice-cream man at the time, and had done quite well and was running a fleet of 6 vans by the age of 21.

He decided to realise his dream. In around 1969 he saw a used E-Type advertised locally second-hand, a soft-top roadster that was in budget, and took his girlfriend along with him in his MGB, to see it at a location near Whitby.

He got there, the E-Type was a bit scruffy but seemed a decent runner. The seller however wouldn't let him test-drive it, but offered to take them out in it instead. Somehow my boss and his girlfriend and the seller all crammed into this Roadster and off they went, the seller driving.

A few minutes later they were off over the North Yorks moors, and the seller turned out to be a total nutter behind the wheel. He got up to 100mph on one particular straight, took a hand off the wheel to point at the speedo, and promptly lost it at the next bend. The car was a write-off but fortunately they all escaped with just cuts and bruises.

He never bought an E-Type in the end, deciding instead to invest in more ice-cream vans. (He once had an altercation with Duncan Bannatyne, who was a rival in the business!)

However I spoke to him on the phone just last month, he later got out of ice-cream in the 70s and moved into property and renovation. He's retired now but we've kept in occasional touch. He said at age 72 he's recently bought his first E-Type! It's a shed and needs a lot of work but it's his retirement project. Can't wait to see it when it's done, he's a perfectionist so I know it'll be a nice car.




cayman-black

12,695 posts

217 months

Thursday 17th December 2020
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This is the E to buy imo if i could find £300k that is. lovely.