Stupid maintenance requirements
Discussion
Every day a journey said:
I can't remember which of the V8 Ferraris (might have been the 348) was an engine out job to do the belts which needed doing at ridiculously short intervals.
Happy to be corrected but I believe it was the 355. I was thinking of getting one and that put me right off. Rubbish automotive engineering imho if you need to remove a whole engine. PH User said:
Leon R said:
Removing the wheel to change a bulb springs immediately to mind.
Looking at you Renault Megane.
That depends which generation of Megane that you are looking at. Some are very easy to change bulbs. Looking at you Renault Megane.
Leon R said:
PH User said:
Leon R said:
Removing the wheel to change a bulb springs immediately to mind.
Looking at you Renault Megane.
That depends which generation of Megane that you are looking at. Some are very easy to change bulbs. Looking at you Renault Megane.
They went one better for the side light bulb. Bumper off. I kid you not. I was sure there would be a workaround. Not that I could find or in any of the Renault forums. Thought I'd better replace both whilst I was at it!
Mazda 5 diseasal.
On the first service I asked the Service Reception for an estimated cost, thinking £200 was about right for an oil and filter splash n dash.
She came back and said "I'm so sorry, I hope you're ready for this... It's £576 because this diesel engine needs the cam cover removed to check the valve clearances and we have to refit a new gasket."
[Reminder to self: check servicing costs when buying new cars]
On the first service I asked the Service Reception for an estimated cost, thinking £200 was about right for an oil and filter splash n dash.
She came back and said "I'm so sorry, I hope you're ready for this... It's £576 because this diesel engine needs the cam cover removed to check the valve clearances and we have to refit a new gasket."
[Reminder to self: check servicing costs when buying new cars]
Leon R said:
PH User said:
Leon R said:
Removing the wheel to change a bulb springs immediately to mind.
Looking at you Renault Megane.
That depends which generation of Megane that you are looking at. Some are very easy to change bulbs. Looking at you Renault Megane.
Chubbyross said:
Every day a journey said:
I can't remember which of the V8 Ferraris (might have been the 348) was an engine out job to do the belts which needed doing at ridiculously short intervals.
Happy to be corrected but I believe it was the 355. I was thinking of getting one and that put me right off. Rubbish automotive engineering imho if you need to remove a whole engine. 
"One of the most common hurdles associated with the maintenance of most older Ferraris is the need (and expense) to replace the timing belt every 30,000 miles or 5 years. For most models prior to and including the F355 (1995-1998), replacing the timing belt(s) requires that the power plant be completely removed and reinserted into the engine bay."
from 'ere
https://www.affordablesupercar.com/post/ferraris-m...
Limpet said:
TurboHatchback said:
Audi V8/V10 timing chains. For some reason they decided that the back of the engine was the best place for them, that they should be fearsomely complicated and that long life oil change intervals were a good idea.
A BMW speciality as well.Headlights which require removal of anything other than the cover, to change filaments drives me mad.
As has been suggested - I think the OEM’s engineer them so average Joe won’t attempt any DIY.
As great as some of the tech is, there is still a lot to be said for the analogue days of old.
As has been suggested - I think the OEM’s engineer them so average Joe won’t attempt any DIY.
As great as some of the tech is, there is still a lot to be said for the analogue days of old.
Chubbyross said:
Happy to be corrected but I believe it was the 355. I was thinking of getting one and that put me right off. Rubbish automotive engineering imho if you need to remove a whole engine.
348, 355, Mondial T. all say engine out for a 3y cam belt change. Some people now say 5Y as the milages are so low and I think Scott on ratarossa has done his 355 in situ......but it looks hard work.TVR chimaera is wheel off for headlights and sealant removal, sometimes even add a hole. Likewise for brake and clutch fluid....oh and getting to the air vent blower and the wiper motor and.....
Morgan aero 8 series 1 required: Bonnet, cowl, splitter, running boards to be removed. Front inboard NS suspension dismantling, floor and engine mounts to be removed. Aircon and water rad to be moved.........So as to get an alternator out of the BMW block....1 sodding bolt could not be accessed.
Every day a journey said:
could both be right!
"One of the most common hurdles associated with the maintenance of most older Ferraris is the need (and expense) to replace the timing belt every 30,000 miles or 5 years. For most models prior to and including the F355 (1995-1998), replacing the timing belt(s) requires that the power plant be completely removed and reinserted into the engine bay."
from 'ere
https://www.affordablesupercar.com/post/ferraris-m...
One of the ironies of the F40 is that it’s actually by and large much cheaper to maintain than the more mainstream models from the era. It actually has an access hatch behind the seats for belts and servicing."One of the most common hurdles associated with the maintenance of most older Ferraris is the need (and expense) to replace the timing belt every 30,000 miles or 5 years. For most models prior to and including the F355 (1995-1998), replacing the timing belt(s) requires that the power plant be completely removed and reinserted into the engine bay."
from 'ere
https://www.affordablesupercar.com/post/ferraris-m...
Except having to replace the fuel tanks every ten years. That’s an upsetting bill
The Wookie said:
Every day a journey said:
could both be right!
"One of the most common hurdles associated with the maintenance of most older Ferraris is the need (and expense) to replace the timing belt every 30,000 miles or 5 years. For most models prior to and including the F355 (1995-1998), replacing the timing belt(s) requires that the power plant be completely removed and reinserted into the engine bay."
from 'ere
https://www.affordablesupercar.com/post/ferraris-m...
One of the ironies of the F40 is that it’s actually by and large much cheaper to maintain than the more mainstream models from the era. It actually has an access hatch behind the seats for belts and servicing."One of the most common hurdles associated with the maintenance of most older Ferraris is the need (and expense) to replace the timing belt every 30,000 miles or 5 years. For most models prior to and including the F355 (1995-1998), replacing the timing belt(s) requires that the power plant be completely removed and reinserted into the engine bay."
from 'ere
https://www.affordablesupercar.com/post/ferraris-m...
Except having to replace the fuel tanks every ten years. That’s an upsetting bill
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