RE: Toyota GR86 sells out in 40 minutes
Discussion
minimalist said:
Wab1974uk said:
Who'd have thought just a couple years ago that Toyota would produce 2 cars that everyone wanted, and allocations would sell out straight away?
GR Yaris
GR86.
I assume the same will happen with the GR Corolla.
I'm not as convinced about the Corolla. Unless I'm mistaken, and could well be as I haven't checked, the Corolla isn't a homologation special. Also, the Yaris is very compact and is the only car I can think of which is that small with so much power and an interesting drive-train. The Corolla competes on a like-for-like basis with quite a few other cars which is likely to go against it.GR Yaris
GR86.
I assume the same will happen with the GR Corolla.
Sadly, the Corolla will not compete with anything here as it will not be imported into the UK
in 2022 is anyone surprised.........
This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
Kinda frustrating, I'm interested but to get one you've got to buy it before seeing it, sitting in it and lord forbid driving it. It was the same with the Yaris - want to see if it looks special in person?, not just an econobox with a bodykit - no you gotta buy it.
I'm sure it drives very nicely, but most cars look a lot different in the flesh and the interiors can feel a lot cheaper than they seem on the screen.
I just don't really believe in pre-ordering things anymore after failed kickstarters, early access games and such. A 30k purchase isn't something I'm happy buying blind.
Ah well, there's always the Japanese import market which isn't stopping sales in 2024 - I'm sure they'll get the super special editions anyway and be far more desirable, kinda like Eunos roadsters.
I'm sure it drives very nicely, but most cars look a lot different in the flesh and the interiors can feel a lot cheaper than they seem on the screen.
I just don't really believe in pre-ordering things anymore after failed kickstarters, early access games and such. A 30k purchase isn't something I'm happy buying blind.
Ah well, there's always the Japanese import market which isn't stopping sales in 2024 - I'm sure they'll get the super special editions anyway and be far more desirable, kinda like Eunos roadsters.
Edited by flukey5 on Thursday 21st April 09:49
Antj said:
in 2022 is anyone surprised.........
This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
This is a very good point. I was only really in a position to buy one as the trains to work were screwed, so I could work from home. I gave it about 20 minutes thought and put the deposit down, had I waited until lunch or slept on it I would have missed out. It's annoying and it's very much the way of the world nowadays. This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
Antj said:
in 2022 is anyone surprised.........
This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
I'm gutted for you, I really am. And I kind of agree. I have to say though, this wasn't an impulse buy for me - I've owned a GT86 for nine years, not really seen anything else that attracted me as a replacement until it's successor was announced, so I started saving for it straight away. However, I do agree with you to an extent - usually I would just wait until the car was available as used approved and buy one then, but this is the first time I've plumped to buy something brand new, exactly because of a fear or missing out engineered by the short production run/allocation. This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
flukey5 said:
Kinda frustrating, I'm interested but to get one you've got to buy it before seeing it, sitting in it and lord forbid driving it. It was the same with the Yaris - want to see if it looks special in person?, not just an econobox with a bodykit - no you gotta buy it.
I'm sure it drives very nicely, but most cars look a lot different in the flesh and the interiors can feel a lot cheaper than they seem on the screen.
I just don't really believe in pre-ordering things anymore after failed kickstarters, early access games and such. A 30k purchase isn't something I'm happy buying blind.
Ah well, there's always the Japanese import market which isn't stopping sales in 2024 - I'm sure they'll get the super special editions anyway and be far more desirable, kinda like Eunos roadsters.
Deposit is refundable and demos should be available in June so if you don't like it IRL no harm done.I'm sure it drives very nicely, but most cars look a lot different in the flesh and the interiors can feel a lot cheaper than they seem on the screen.
I just don't really believe in pre-ordering things anymore after failed kickstarters, early access games and such. A 30k purchase isn't something I'm happy buying blind.
Ah well, there's always the Japanese import market which isn't stopping sales in 2024 - I'm sure they'll get the super special editions anyway and be far more desirable, kinda like Eunos roadsters.
Edited by flukey5 on Thursday 21st April 09:49
Antj said:
in 2022 is anyone surprised.........
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom
Yeah, I don’t normally like to jump in but it was a no brainer on the GR86, 14day money back guarantee with online sale if you don’t like it, looking at the demand there is every possibility you could get back more than you paid if you don’t like it.Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom
I tried to order, but was out all day so time I got my name on the waiting list I am probably way too far down to be able to get a cancellation....
It was weird, I followed the link they emailed at 10:30am but it didn't work, so left it until I got home again...bad move in hindsight...
It was weird, I followed the link they emailed at 10:30am but it didn't work, so left it until I got home again...bad move in hindsight...
Agree with the above, only a total idiot would buy unseen and buy into the hype. I should be more grown up in my mid 30s
Its new car time for me (sort of, just fancy one soon) and the GR86 was always on my list to begin with since it was announced so thought why not. Ive never owned a Toyota or Subaru, Im not a fan boy.
Its what I wanted. 1300kg, 230hp is fine with a bit of torque to boot. RWD and LSD. Didn't even check the spec before I signed for it, only found out it had heated seats yesterday evening. If its a s
tter fine, ill sell it. I highly doubt it though loved the GT86 and thought it was more than ample.
Its new car time for me (sort of, just fancy one soon) and the GR86 was always on my list to begin with since it was announced so thought why not. Ive never owned a Toyota or Subaru, Im not a fan boy.
Its what I wanted. 1300kg, 230hp is fine with a bit of torque to boot. RWD and LSD. Didn't even check the spec before I signed for it, only found out it had heated seats yesterday evening. If its a s
tter fine, ill sell it. I highly doubt it though loved the GT86 and thought it was more than ample. Antj said:
in 2022 is anyone surprised.........
This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
Completely get your frustration but I don't think this is a Rolex/Porsche GT style marketing tactic. Due to upcoming European safety regulations, they won't be allowed to sell the GR86 here beyond 2024. Combine that with continued disruption to global supply chains, has meant that demand has outstripped supply. I could be wrong but I don't think Toyota are voluntarily limiting production. This is 100% sales technique , all something that has become standard procedure now.
So its not that the GR86 is that AMAZING and life changing, there's plenty of cars at the same money that will do the same thing ( admittedly not brand new). However if you cast your mind back to the lacklustre take up on the GT86 and the way it sort of got forgotten very quickly after the hype. So when Toyota were releasing this Halo product it had to do well...... so how do you ensure it does well, you make everyone think they want it. keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
Actually pisses me off, as i am a buyer who doesn't just dive in head first like a lot of the new buyers, i'm older so i was on the release list, the email comes in to say ordering live. so i'm at Cadwell park on a trackday, think give me a few minutes and i'll look at that at lunch break........boom over.
that was that, no time to have a ponder, a sensible think, so stuff it I've gone from being a customer who was going to buy to someone left with a bad taste in their mouth thinking i'll take my cash elsewhere. so back to plan B and look at a used GT86
I know that Toyota or any other manufacturer won't give a toss as they love the hype and the way we are even talking about this now. but its another thing that's ruined. So call me doom and gloom but i look forward to a few years time when dealers can't give cars away then we get some buyer power back again instead of having to be thankful to get a slot for one of their cars----------
and no I'm not bitter,,,,,,, I am, but its just because i did actually want one, but for some of us a car is still a well thought out purchase and yes i blame my Dad for always saying "think things through fully" . I now see why old people get so miserable as now I've hit 40 I can see why,
I was too slow, grrrrrr!!
Do you think people will use these or are they bought to flip??
And the GR Yaris that people clearly bought to flip, do people really pay the prices advertised?? I see a lot of the same cars still for sale. Is it a case of the owners trying their luck but using the car anyway. If it sells, it sells, if it doesn't, it doesn't kinda approach.
Anyway, right up my street the GR86, shame to have missed out. Hopefully they'll bring over some more.
Do you think people will use these or are they bought to flip??
And the GR Yaris that people clearly bought to flip, do people really pay the prices advertised?? I see a lot of the same cars still for sale. Is it a case of the owners trying their luck but using the car anyway. If it sells, it sells, if it doesn't, it doesn't kinda approach.
Anyway, right up my street the GR86, shame to have missed out. Hopefully they'll bring over some more.
Antj said:
keenly priced is a good start, the reained value toyota were using on a 4yr PCP deal made it silly cheap, well over 55% for 40k, long lead in time with lots of titillation from reviews is another way, but what's the ultimate way now? That's right just like the experts do, you make it unobtanium, a lot of people want what they can't have.
This is exactly what certain German brands have been doing for years, and you're pissing your pants because you (wrongly) think Toyota are doing it? There were plenty of people on here complaining that the monthlies on the original GT86 were expensive compared to, say, a Golf R or Audi TT. And the reason for that is that the car held its value far better than Toyota expected.The PCP values Toyota are using now are very much realistic. With the oldest ones coming up to 10 years old, the cheapest GT86 advertised on PH is currently £12k, and they never really dropped under £10k. For a car that started out at £25k, that's at least 40% of its value at 10 years. 55% at four years in the current market? Unless ICE cars are hit with exorbitant taxes by then, they'll easily achieve that, because the original GT86 did.
They're not artificially restricting supply either. The car won't be legal to sell here in a couple of years, and they can't just ignore other markets to build more for the UK in that time. I'd bet the factory will be maxed out. The GT86 sold in good numbers in the US, Japan, and Australia.
I get that you've missed out but you need a dose of reality and to take ownership of your choices.
Volare said:
Ay?
Needs more power then suggests a car with the same bhp/ton? Which is 'alot less' (£600) new? No doubt never driven either.
Sound PH logic.
Actually i have driven both and i didnt really like either of them, their fun to drive but to be honest my mates old MG BGT i enjoyed more for some reason, i think its just a personal preference thing. Needs more power then suggests a car with the same bhp/ton? Which is 'alot less' (£600) new? No doubt never driven either.
Sound PH logic.
Dont get me wrong i am not slagging the GR86 off i just wish it had more power then i think it could be really something special but its just my old opinion.
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