RE: 2023 BMW XM prototype | PH Review

RE: 2023 BMW XM prototype | PH Review

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Gavodicko

35 posts

93 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Is this website being funded by BMW as I cannot see how anyone can justify such a large write up for such a terrible car?

mcelliott

8,724 posts

183 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Kill it with fire

rwindmill

436 posts

160 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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So this is how ICE bows out, with a procession of oversized brick shaped SUV's with monstrous power outputs.

Whatever happened to style, finesse, sartorial elegance, having just the right amount of power to suit the capabilities of the chassis??

T1berious

2,276 posts

157 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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<Joke>

M division has their second bespoke model and its this! Just brilliant! I can't wait to see the CSL version! Out with the rear seats and in with a roll cage!

</Joke>

Actually, now I think about it, the entire ultra high performance SUV segment is a joke.

Edited by T1berious on Monday 16th May 09:11

rampageturke

2,622 posts

164 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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car design has regressed. back to dull ugly square boxes

NJJ

437 posts

82 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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It seems no one at BMW asked the obvious question: "What does M stand for again?" The only thing this showcases is everything that is currently wrong with the car industry and the desecration of the M brand. Should have been branded an Alpina instead.

fozzymandeus

1,047 posts

148 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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I always preferred the SM to the XM.
I still do.

wpa1975

8,992 posts

116 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Best option is that BMW leave it disguised as it is going to be ugly.

Whydoyoutalkcrap

199 posts

215 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Isn't it time BMW kicked their 'Design' team out if the door? Keep their dogs but let them have their white sticks.

rampageturke

2,622 posts

164 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Whydoyoutalkcrap said:
Isn't it time BMW kicked their 'Design' team out if the door? Keep their dogs but let them have their white sticks.
They just hired the guy from citroen not too long ago, which is why BMWs are starting to have the same slim headlights as a C4 cactus

Saweep

6,611 posts

188 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Nobody is choosing a BMW over their Urus/G63 etc.

24 month lead times on Urus right now and BMW XM competition things are in stock everywhere in the BMW network.

justa1972

303 posts

139 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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mcelliott said:
Kill it with fire
I was going to have a long rant about how awful this thing is and then realised that you had summed it up perfectly with four words !

dandare

957 posts

256 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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rodericb said:
Hmm, according to the industry types here on PH I thought car manufacturers had stopped development of internal combustion engines?
I believe that the EU has decided to ban the sale of ICEs by 2035 (in line with the EU net-zero wishes by 2050, with cars having an average lifespan of 15 years), so there will still be plenty of development until a couple of years before then.


Who knows, they might find a good solution to the pollution/sustainability by then, and we could be saved from being forced to drive EVs?
I think building heavy SUVs won't be the way forward, though.

ballans

804 posts

107 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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Hope they save some of that camouflage for the driver.

aestivator

242 posts

32 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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A vehicle that embodies the opposite of the 'simplify, then add lightness' philosophy. I'm sure the M division engineers are proud of how they've mitigated the problems created by 3-tonne kerb weight and the ride height of a school bus, but I bet they'd have been happier not crippling themselves from the outset with those disadvantages. I like a practical SUV as much as the next person, but this whole vehicle segment just needs to be nuked from space.

I also don't really understand the marketing strategy. BMW is touting it as the 'first bespoke M car since the M1', but it's clearly designed to compete with the Urus and other horrible status barges, the owners of which won't give a stuff about (or even have heard of) M division. So why sacrifice the brand? Just call it the X8 M Competition tart's handbag edition and I'm sure it'll still sell like hot cakes.

You can tell the reviewer pretty much hated it but had to keep mashing away at the keyboard to make the word count.

Edited by aestivator on Monday 16th May 08:56

Volare

406 posts

65 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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If their previous releases are anything to go by, they should definitely leave the camouflage on.

Bobby Lee

224 posts

57 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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HighwayStar said:
E30KB said:
Do people who are the target market for this not care about how it looks at all ?.

If that is the answer what was the question?
Does it have even matter. Some people, want, appreciate something different. Not necessarily pretty, bold and brutal can be interesting.
I remember seeing the Ford Scorpio at the Motorshow in the mid 80’s. I thought it was hideous… a bloke peered inside and said that’s real luxury that.
Build it and they will come….
If the best defence you can make is comparing it to the Ford Scorpio that’s about as damning as it gets tbh.

How is it different to the 1000 identical massive grim SUVs launched in the last 12 seconds? Only thing I can think of is it’s slightly more pointlessly massive.

Magikarp

808 posts

50 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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We all know where this is going. Will one of the manufacturers just stop the cock tease and just do a 2000BHP, 3 ton abomination with 30" wheels ?

Jdubya78

16 posts

41 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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I call this sort of car "rapper tat" it'll be bought by an upcoming star who'll feature it in a couple of videos. In 5 or 6 or years on its 5th owner it'll get launched into a tree. Ed Bolian\Hoodie\ at al will then buy it for peanuts and find a badly stashed crack pipe under the back seat.

SRT77

677 posts

220 months

Monday 16th May 2022
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M for monstrosity.