RE: McMurtry Spéirling takes FOS Hillclimb record
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Madder than mad jack mc-mad on a mad weekend in mad-ville… bonkers…!!!
Go read about McMurtry, I’ve been in aerospace a long time and know his story well, without him there would have been no Concorde engines… apparently Concorde was no slouch either… lol…
He is used to making ‘fast things’ er, faster…!!
Great stuff… :-))
Go read about McMurtry, I’ve been in aerospace a long time and know his story well, without him there would have been no Concorde engines… apparently Concorde was no slouch either… lol…
He is used to making ‘fast things’ er, faster…!!
Great stuff… :-))
Funk said:
What's notable, in addition to the incredible speed, is that the width of it meant it simply didn't need to slow down to negotiate corners in the way wider cars did.
Funny that’s what I suggested when chatting to TC (Max’s Brother) at the weekend, but Max actually told him he couldn’t use the full width and he was having to make a concerted effort to drive down the middle of the track because the crown of the road was the only bit flat enough for the ground effect to work fully!Pebbles167 said:
Funk said:
...watching the highlights of the fastest runs up the hill made me sad; cars like the Viper, 911 and Jaguar bellowing and roaring their way up the hill just ignites something in you that the soulless whine of the various electric cars just simply couldn't. As 'pistonheads' we've been fortunate to live through a golden age of motoring but despite electric cars being bonkers-quick they simply leave me cold. Nearly the end of an era, sadly.
Yes, I felt this and never so obviously. I've been fairly optimistic of the electric car, but usually when I see one at a show it's in and amongst classic noisy ICE cars. When the swoosh of electric cars is all we hear, I think I'll truly know the golden years of car culture has passed.
Still, incredible engineering. Well done to them.
And , well done to the McMurtry team.
Jon_S_Rally said:
I'm sure some will think that makes me a luddite, but there we are.
Join the club!An epic run, but sounds like the milk float which used to deliver our milk when I were a lad.
Nothing stirs my petrol head veins like the sound of a barely-silenced V8, or a 911 flat six at full chat, or any number of other cars with evocative engine noises - a BMW straight 6, the sigh of a turbo wastegate on a Saab 9000 Aero, the lumpy idle of a Subaru flat four, a Ferrari V12 going through the gears.
Wait till they get this to the 'ring. I take it they're installing the first charging stations halfway around the circuit?
Hairymonster said:
Wait till they get this to the 'ring. I take it they're installing the first charging stations halfway around the circuit?
This got me wondering so I did a bit of research (aka about 30 seconds on Google), and apparently if the McMurtry were subject to the WLTP test it would have a range of over 300 miles. Not that surprising when you learn (as I just did) that its battery is actually a decent size at 60kwh, and it's got a tiny frontal area. So I reckon it could get round the 'ring OK. Just like VW's IDR milk float wheezed its way up Pikes Peak a few years back.In terms of 'what else could the Speirling do', this has a 60 kWh battery and weighs 1000kg, whereas the ID R is 45 kWh and 1100kg. So presumably it could effectively challenge any of the times the VW has set.
That did Pikes Peak in just under 8 minutes and Nurburgring in just over 6, both of which seem eminently beatable by the McMurtry.
With 60 kWh and 1000hp it could run at full power for a continuous ~5 minutes, however once you add in 10-20% regen and consider time spent off-throttle when slowing down and turning, you're probably looking at around 10 minutes 'flat out' depending on the course.
The TT course record is around 16 minutes so perhaps a bit longer than optimum, I imagine it could have a decent shot but wouldn't be able to run full power all the way around.
Was something special to see in person, having seen the few performance orientated electric cars like the GT4 ePerformance too I am for the first time swaying towards an electric car in the near future.
To see something like a GT3 Cup go past at speed and then shortly after see the Lucid Air 4 door saloon go past even quicker is quite something.
To see something like a GT3 Cup go past at speed and then shortly after see the Lucid Air 4 door saloon go past even quicker is quite something.
samoht said:
In terms of 'what else could the Speirling do', this has a 60 kWh battery and weighs 1000kg, whereas the ID R is 45 kWh and 1100kg. So presumably it could effectively challenge any of the times the VW has set.
That did Pikes Peak in just under 8 minutes and Nurburgring in just over 6, both of which seem eminently beatable by the McMurtry.
With 60 kWh and 1000hp it could run at full power for a continuous ~5 minutes, however once you add in 10-20% regen and consider time spent off-throttle when slowing down and turning, you're probably looking at around 10 minutes 'flat out' depending on the course.
The TT course record is around 16 minutes so perhaps a bit longer than optimum, I imagine it could have a decent shot but wouldn't be able to run full power all the way around.
I wonder how their motor and battery cooling would hold up to that much full throttle running. The Goodwood Hill is short enough not to cause any problems there - the long straights of the Ring might cause some issuesThat did Pikes Peak in just under 8 minutes and Nurburgring in just over 6, both of which seem eminently beatable by the McMurtry.
With 60 kWh and 1000hp it could run at full power for a continuous ~5 minutes, however once you add in 10-20% regen and consider time spent off-throttle when slowing down and turning, you're probably looking at around 10 minutes 'flat out' depending on the course.
The TT course record is around 16 minutes so perhaps a bit longer than optimum, I imagine it could have a decent shot but wouldn't be able to run full power all the way around.
howardhughes said:
EV. Quite possibly the biggest mistake in the history of the Goodwood.
The car was appearing at The Festival of Speed not The Festival of Internal Combustion Engines. Like it or not - I'm not totally convinced yet - EVs are here to stay so we might as well celebrate the fast ones.The car is road legal and you can buy them.
There are a lot of very rich people worldwide that would be interested.
But why does the have to be an end game? Sir DM is an engineer and loves cars and technology and has one of the most inventive minds in history. When you have made yourself a 'reasonably comfortable' sum, you aren't going to be swearing at a Westfield in a single concrete garage at the weekend.
There are a lot of very rich people worldwide that would be interested.
But why does the have to be an end game? Sir DM is an engineer and loves cars and technology and has one of the most inventive minds in history. When you have made yourself a 'reasonably comfortable' sum, you aren't going to be swearing at a Westfield in a single concrete garage at the weekend.
Funk said:
IDR = 39.9s
McMurtry = 39.08s
I actually expected it to have blitzed the existing record although I hadn't seen the VW go up the hill.McMurtry = 39.08s
IDR here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8il5ohB8FYk&ab...
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