Vehicles not fit for the road
Discussion
coldel said:
Chris32345 said:
coldel said:
That is something quite different, in terms of illegally falsifying vehicle documents. However I would say the number of these is much smaller than the failure of general upkeep of things like tyre pressures etc.
About time mot ramps had an anpr camera on so the reg plates needs to match the Vin number entered for the test and it then saved snap of it when the test has been started for a additional security stepNow wouldn't stop people making fake plates up ect to teat cars that arnt present but definitely make it harder to fake
At the end of the day, people will always find a way to dodge it if they want to.
Also increase in test fee in line with inflation and possibility of first test being 4 years over current 3 years.
Deranged Rover said:
jamei303 said:
Given you can get panel van versions of hatchbacks I don't see how a dirty rear window should be cause for alarm whilst an obscured metal panel in its place is just fine.
Given this magnificent piece of logic, i assume you always climb into the rear seats of five door cars through the front door and over the seat, because you would have to do that in the three door version?cce427 said:
I see this was discussed here some time ago but even more common today. As a retired mechanic I see so many vehicles EVERY DAY that are not fit for the road due to under inflated tyres, no brake lights, missing rear wiper blades, unreadable number plates, missing door mirrors, missing bumpers, failed headlights, badly aligned headlights and that was just this morning, drives my wife mad :-) If I see under inflated tyres I try and make the driver aware. all these offences are normaly dealt with by a caution and a chance to rectify but with no traffic cops in my area they just get more and more common. I think there should be an online app that we can report to and it simply sends the owner a letter and a period to rectify.
And before you start I am not a grass just concerned for the safety of others
Wow, you must live in a really rough area to see so many vehicles EVERY DAY. And before you start I am not a grass just concerned for the safety of others
Is a missing rear wiper blade really not fit the road ffs
Glad there isn't an app if people are going to try and cause innocent people greif with guff like that.cce427 said:
When I used to take cars for an MOT if something is fitted to a vehicle it has to work, like a spare tyre, if it is missing it is fine, if you have one and it is bald its a fail. Rear wipers are the same unless the law has changed.
Take as in transport or actually conduct MoT's?Knowing the law & regs may help you a lot as you appear to be hugely mistaken in your beliefs.
cce427 said:
coldel said:
The idea of having a function to report things like tyres that are low on pressure to etc. really is quite impossible. It would take a huge department to deal with that sort of information throughput ... checking individual dashcam footage if you say received just 5000 a day is just (given there are tens of millions of cars in the UK) completely unimplementable. And I suspect it will be abused.
Ultimately it comes down to how many cases of injury and/or death occur due to these issues? Are we talking significant numbers or is it literally it annoys people?
If its worthwhile, we could have a decent marketing campaign by the government to educate people and the general public instead of being sanctimonious to others and just being kind and helpful could solve the problem themselves.
Again it is down to money and how many people are killed, just part of the lawless society it seems to be coming. Personaly I would not report low pressure tyres, I knock on car windows and tell them or leave a note on the windscreen if I can. I was on a Motorway awareness course a couple of years ago and the tutor asked how many people checked their car with a quick walk around and I was the only one, also so many Highway code changes nobody including me knew about so maybe a government awareness campain is the way to go, as a qualified electrician I had to re qualify regularly as do gas engineers maybe driver need to update their knowledge ;-)Ultimately it comes down to how many cases of injury and/or death occur due to these issues? Are we talking significant numbers or is it literally it annoys people?
If its worthwhile, we could have a decent marketing campaign by the government to educate people and the general public instead of being sanctimonious to others and just being kind and helpful could solve the problem themselves.
300bhp/ton said:
cce427 said:
coldel said:
The idea of having a function to report things like tyres that are low on pressure to etc. really is quite impossible. It would take a huge department to deal with that sort of information throughput ... checking individual dashcam footage if you say received just 5000 a day is just (given there are tens of millions of cars in the UK) completely unimplementable. And I suspect it will be abused.
Ultimately it comes down to how many cases of injury and/or death occur due to these issues? Are we talking significant numbers or is it literally it annoys people?
If its worthwhile, we could have a decent marketing campaign by the government to educate people and the general public instead of being sanctimonious to others and just being kind and helpful could solve the problem themselves.
Again it is down to money and how many people are killed, just part of the lawless society it seems to be coming. Personaly I would not report low pressure tyres, I knock on car windows and tell them or leave a note on the windscreen if I can. I was on a Motorway awareness course a couple of years ago and the tutor asked how many people checked their car with a quick walk around and I was the only one, also so many Highway code changes nobody including me knew about so maybe a government awareness campain is the way to go, as a qualified electrician I had to re qualify regularly as do gas engineers maybe driver need to update their knowledge ;-)Ultimately it comes down to how many cases of injury and/or death occur due to these issues? Are we talking significant numbers or is it literally it annoys people?
If its worthwhile, we could have a decent marketing campaign by the government to educate people and the general public instead of being sanctimonious to others and just being kind and helpful could solve the problem themselves.
Since owning an Audi A3, I've noticed how many (like mine when I bought it) have the rear wiper at some mid-wipe angle where it was when the motor died.
Typical VAG - rather than entertain the aesthetic horror of a separate washer nozzle, they located it on the wiper spindle, which means routing the fluid through the motor housing. In time the tube splits and leaks, and fills the motor mechanism up with water.
I fitted a new motor, but most don't bother.
Typical VAG - rather than entertain the aesthetic horror of a separate washer nozzle, they located it on the wiper spindle, which means routing the fluid through the motor housing. In time the tube splits and leaks, and fills the motor mechanism up with water.
I fitted a new motor, but most don't bother.
cce427 said:
not fit for the road due to under inflated tyres, no brake lights, missing rear wiper blades, unreadable number plates, missing door mirrors, missing bumpers, failed headlights, badly aligned headlights
Is that it? I assumed this was going to be about rotten chassis or detached suspension components or something.Type in "just rolled in" and "customer states" on youtube.
Deranged Rover said:
jamei303 said:
Given you can get panel van versions of hatchbacks I don't see how a dirty rear window should be cause for alarm whilst an obscured metal panel in its place is just fine.
Given this magnificent piece of logic, i assume you always climb into the rear seats of five door cars through the front door and over the seat, because you would have to do that in the three door version?As the topic is ‘vehicles’ has anyone seen the man (or maybe there are thousands of them?) wearing an enormous flapping coat, on a bicycle with two barely inflated tyres, a chain that hasn’t seen any oil in ten years and buckled wheels that touch the brake pads on every turn?
I also fondly remember Friday nights in a small town in Ireland in the 80s, and the astonishing range of vehicles that people used to come to the (many) bars after mass. A lot of dodgy tractors obviously and some horse and carts, but we also saw an ancient Ford that was just a shell and an engine on wheels. No doors, bonnet or boot lid. Someone else had decided to collect firewood on the way and had tied huge pieces of tree all over the car, including on the bonnet. It was a mystery how he knew where he was going.
I also fondly remember Friday nights in a small town in Ireland in the 80s, and the astonishing range of vehicles that people used to come to the (many) bars after mass. A lot of dodgy tractors obviously and some horse and carts, but we also saw an ancient Ford that was just a shell and an engine on wheels. No doors, bonnet or boot lid. Someone else had decided to collect firewood on the way and had tied huge pieces of tree all over the car, including on the bonnet. It was a mystery how he knew where he was going.
Limpet said:
Since owning an Audi A3, I've noticed how many (like mine when I bought it) have the rear wiper at some mid-wipe angle where it was when the motor died.
Typical VAG - rather than entertain the aesthetic horror of a separate washer nozzle, they located it on the wiper spindle, which means routing the fluid through the motor housing. In time the tube splits and leaks, and fills the motor mechanism up with water.
I fitted a new motor, but most don't bother.
My Octavia is like this at the moment, stuck at a nice jaunty angle. Typical VAG - rather than entertain the aesthetic horror of a separate washer nozzle, they located it on the wiper spindle, which means routing the fluid through the motor housing. In time the tube splits and leaks, and fills the motor mechanism up with water.
I fitted a new motor, but most don't bother.
If I ever get the inclination, I will remove and see if I can clean up, as apparently this can get it going again for a little while. Otherwise it is a new motor, which I might treat it to if it reaches the 300k miles (280K at the moment.).
sparkythecat said:
Vipers said:
What annoys me is those with a rear wiper, which unless I am wrong, includes a wash as well, drive around with the rear window obliterated with dirt.
I’ll be on your list then. I spent 25 years driving a van, so door mirrors are all I ever use.
Edited by Vipers on Saturday 21st January 09:50
littlebasher said:
There's a lot more obvious stuff that people get away with
Blacked out front windows
Mirrored windscreens
Blue lights
No front number plate / number plate in windscreen
Illegible number plates
Smoked rear lights that are impossible to see
Wheels that protrude waaay beyond the arches
Stanced
When you mentioned blacked out windows, saw a TV series where the police pulled a driver, side windows were so dark they couldn’t see in, turns out the driver was black, and was spouting on being pulled because he was black, they tried to explain as they couldn’t see in the vehicle they had no idea who was driving it, but he kept yapping, but cooled down a bit when they showed the results of the test they did on the windows.Blacked out front windows
Mirrored windscreens
Blue lights
No front number plate / number plate in windscreen
Illegible number plates
Smoked rear lights that are impossible to see
Wheels that protrude waaay beyond the arches
Stanced
I have seen this sort of thing in the Middle East, with a clear bit so you can see the door mirror.
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