RE: Novitec turns its hand to the 296 GTB

RE: Novitec turns its hand to the 296 GTB

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chrisironside

686 posts

163 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Great looking 296 imo.

AlexS

1,552 posts

233 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Matt_T said:
I have to admit that the Ferrari range seems to confuse me... what is the difference meant to be between the SF90 and the F8?

SF90 just seems crazily expensive for no reason other that it needs to be more than the F8, then the F8 seems to offer the same as the 296.

The 296 does seem like the best buy of the range...




Edited by Matt_T on Monday 20th March 14:02
The SF90 is a plugin hybrid with 3 electric motors and a combined peak output of 1000PS whereas the F8 Tributo is a pure ICE powered car based on the earlier 488 and has a peak output in the mid 700s PS. The 296 only has the single electric motor (so isn't 4wd) and sits in the middle power wise.

F1GTRUeno

6,379 posts

219 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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J4CKO said:
Its all got a bit silly really, getting on for the power of 2 F40's in what is the "cooking" Ferrari, as cooking as Ferraris ever get but its part of the 324, 348, 355, 360 etc lineage isnt it
No, not really.

It's effectively the modern representation of the 246 GTB isn't it? A new standalone model.

The current 328/348/etc car is the F8.

Kawasicki

13,123 posts

236 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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Looks crazy cool. Reminds me of a Ford GT40, for some odd reason.

Matt_T

416 posts

75 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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AlexS said:
Matt_T said:
I have to admit that the Ferrari range seems to confuse me... what is the difference meant to be between the SF90 and the F8?

SF90 just seems crazily expensive for no reason other that it needs to be more than the F8, then the F8 seems to offer the same as the 296.

The 296 does seem like the best buy of the range...

Edited by Matt_T on Monday 20th March 14:02
The SF90 is a plugin hybrid with 3 electric motors and a combined peak output of 1000PS whereas the F8 Tributo is a pure ICE powered car based on the earlier 488 and has a peak output in the mid 700s PS. The 296 only has the single electric motor (so isn't 4wd) and sits in the middle power wise.
Thanks AlexS... I went wrong by assuming that the 296 was the entry level mid-engined car (same lineage as the 208) and the F8 was was the 488 / 430 replacement? My confusion is not helped by the Ferrari website which refuses to display any kind of hierarchy or order.

As an aside, 360s look remarkably good value at the moment...

pycraft

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807 posts

185 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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AmyRichardson said:
"Junior" Ferraris used to be 911 Turbo money and generally had performance that fell between a standard 911 and a Turbo - or do a 1997 road test tells me. They "broke free" in the 2000s and romped upmarket, and I suspect this was a deliberate strategy of differentiation.
Remember that at the time, Ferrari owned Maserati and would have been making the 3200/4200/Gransport which was more directly aimed at the 911. That covered that end of the market whilst allowing Ferrari to extend upwards.

Nish Gnackers

1,071 posts

42 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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F1GTRUeno said:
No, not really.

It's effectively the modern representation of the 246 GTB isn't it? A new standalone model.

The current 328/348/etc car is the F8.
The F8 is not a current model and hasn't been available to order since March '22. It has been superseded by the 296 GTB/GTS

pycraft

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807 posts

185 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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AmyRichardson said:
"Junior" Ferraris used to be 911 Turbo money
The Roma is close enough to the price of a 911 Turbo to overlap it in price once you start speccing.

ManyMotors

660 posts

99 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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I don't believe the 38 hp gain. And modifying a new Ferrari with an exhaust and wheels seems very stupid.

To see how a new exhaust might cause a problem, Emelia Hartford who has some good videos, just tried to put a self designed one in a new 296 GTB and found the car wouldn't even go into a gear - computer did like it. That video is on YouTube.

ZX10R NIN

27,734 posts

126 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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I like this but I do like Novitec work, having had a few Novitec additions on cars I've owned with their additions on them I'm a fan.

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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The 296 is a more engaging car to drive than my SF90. I wish I'd brought one instead.

I have Novitec spacers and springs on an 812, they work well and give the car a better stance.

neverlifted

3,598 posts

246 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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I like the wheels. Wish they did Astons, exhaust would be good.

WCZ

10,567 posts

195 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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ManyMotors said:
I don't believe the 38 hp gain. And modifying a new Ferrari with an exhaust and wheels seems very stupid.

To see how a new exhaust might cause a problem, Emelia Hartford who has some good videos, just tried to put a self designed one in a new 296 GTB and found the car wouldn't even go into a gear - computer did like it. That video is on YouTube.
Novitec have a close relationship with Ferrari, this isn't the same as someone welding a drainpipe on

Matt_T

416 posts

75 months

Monday 20th March 2023
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ManyMotors said:
To see how a new exhaust might cause a problem, Emelia Hartford who has some good videos, just tried to put a self designed one in a new 296 GTB and found the car wouldn't even go into a gear - computer did like it. That video is on YouTube.
doh! Now you made me rewatch my favorite video... skip to 9:02 and watch they guys face!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdbSh0t_XKc&t=...

Edited by Matt_T on Monday 20th March 21:47

F1GTRUeno

6,379 posts

219 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Nish Gnackers said:
The F8 is not a current model and hasn't been available to order since March '22. It has been superseded by the 296 GTB/GTS
Ah, didn't realise it had been discontinued. I guess they've changed tack then and this is the replacement as you say.

They hyped it up as the baby/Dino of the modern Ferrari range but then gave it all that power. It's still a six cylinder though so if they do another mid-engined V8 model I'd expect that would be the proper replacement for the F8.

neverlifted

3,598 posts

246 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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I like the wheels. Wish they did Astons, exhaust would be good.

nismo48

3,824 posts

208 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Absolutely stunning and just so special to behold.. Needs just a little less yellow wink

ducnick

1,811 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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And in other news. Next week Novitec will be painting the new Lotus red to make it look like a Ferrari.

Jon_S_Rally

3,450 posts

89 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Robertb said:
Are there any tuners who make cars actually look better than the original?

Every week there seems to be another disfigured offering from Novitec, Manhard, Techart or somesuch
Yes. I think this looks better than a standard 296. The wheels are much nicer than the OEM ones.

As others have said, RUF and plenty of others have done some nice work over the years too.

WCZ

10,567 posts

195 months

Tuesday 21st March 2023
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Yes. I think this looks better than a standard 296. The wheels are much nicer than the OEM ones.

As others have said, RUF and plenty of others have done some nice work over the years too.
same, I think this is actually the first 296 I've liked the look of

regarding power it's going to be endless and I think 2000hp will be common in 10-15 years time - no one cares about weight or driving experience anymore (or at least most buyers don't) so it'll just continue endlessly