RE: Brawn: The Impossible Formula 1 Story looks epic
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Mouse Rat said:
Briliant, remember it well from when F1 used to be popular to watch.
Brawn F1 and Leicester City probably the best sporting shocks of recent times.
Connacht Rugby winning the 2016 Pro12 has similar parallels, with them having been underfunded and almost disbanded several times in previous yearsBrawn F1 and Leicester City probably the best sporting shocks of recent times.
520TORQUES said:
I have fond memories of this. I saw some potato spec video footage from the shakedown of the car prior to it's official first test run and saw how brilliant it looked. I popped £150 on a bet with coral, £50 on Jenson, £50 on Rubens and £50 on the team to win the championship.
As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
Brilliant!As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
HLS30 said:
I had forgotten how great the V10's sounded. I am rapidly losing my F1 allegiance due to predictability. A split diffuser for 2024 should be a required project for senior engineering studies.
The V10s were good...but the V12s. Oh my.In fact all of them were soooooooo much better for being LOUD!
520TORQUES said:
British Beef said:
For me the tragedy of it was Honda had designed and built the car over seasons of huge cost, and then essentially given it away for free along with the incredible marketing opportunity of winning F1.
It would have been midfield without the Mercedes engine.520TORQUES said:
I have fond memories of this. I saw some potato spec video footage from the shakedown of the car prior to it's official first test run and saw how brilliant it looked. I popped £150 on a bet with coral, £50 on Jenson, £50 on Rubens and £50 on the team to win the championship.
As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
Reminds me of this thread from 2008As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The odds mentioned in this thread were as high as 100-1! I recommend that the OP place a spread bet “buy” on Button’s points. Wished I’d followed my own advice. I seem to recall the spread was something like 7-9 - he finished on 95 and having won 6 of the first 7 races I’m guessing the “sell” on the spread was quite a bit higher than 95 at that point.
520TORQUES said:
It would have been midfield without the Mercedes engine.
They had to make massive compromises to fit the Mercedes Engine and engines were not as big a difference as they are now. The Macca was still a dog in 09 and it had the same engine as Brawn.
The Honda unit was far better packaged too. It was a little underpowered in 2006 but by 2008 it was basically the same as Mercedes. The car was just a dog in 07-08.
5pen said:
520TORQUES said:
I have fond memories of this. I saw some potato spec video footage from the shakedown of the car prior to it's official first test run and saw how brilliant it looked. I popped £150 on a bet with coral, £50 on Jenson, £50 on Rubens and £50 on the team to win the championship.
As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
Reminds me of this thread from 2008As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The odds mentioned in this thread were as high as 100-1! I recommend that the OP place a spread bet “buy” on Button’s points. Wished I’d followed my own advice. I seem to recall the spread was something like 7-9 - he finished on 95 and having won 6 of the first 7 races I’m guessing the “sell” on the spread was quite a bit higher than 95 at that point.
Looks like i got 25-1 odds on my bet. I remember the crazy odds being offered, but that was before it was certain a car would even make it to the first event.
From memory the odds started dropping quickly after the shakedown as quite a few of the lads on the team started placing bets immediately after the first run. I got in shortly after.
I managed to find the potato video i watched on my computer, it was at the small Silverstone south circuit.
Deadlysub said:
520TORQUES said:
British Beef said:
For me the tragedy of it was Honda had designed and built the car over seasons of huge cost, and then essentially given it away for free along with the incredible marketing opportunity of winning F1.
It would have been midfield without the Mercedes engine.BricktopST205 said:
They had to make massive compromises to fit the Mercedes Engine and engines were not as big a difference as they are now.
The Macca was still a dog in 09 and it had the same engine as Brawn.
The Honda unit was far better packaged too. It was a little underpowered in 2006 but by 2008 it was basically the same as Mercedes. The car was just a dog in 07-08.
Weight distribution of the engines was mandated by the FIA in 2006 for the V8 2.4, that helped with the conversion to the Mercedes.The Macca was still a dog in 09 and it had the same engine as Brawn.
The Honda unit was far better packaged too. It was a little underpowered in 2006 but by 2008 it was basically the same as Mercedes. The car was just a dog in 07-08.
Racecar engineering, 2009.
https://racecar-engineering.telegraph.co.uk/articl...
"The Mercedes-Benz FO108W engine has again proved its superiority. Five of the top ten runners in this afternoons German Grand Prix qualifying session used the German firm’s 2.4 litre V8 engine. This is the most dominant performance by a single engine design in the history of modern Formula 1. Previously the Renault Sport RS7 V10 of 1995 held the title, despite losing the record Renaults engine department has reson enough to smile as one of its RS27 engines set pole at the ‘ring in the Red Bull RB5.
Designed and built by Mercedes-Benz HPE in Brixworth, England the FO108W is currently used by championship leaders Brawn GP, McLaren and Force India. Earlier in the year a single FO108W engine won three Grand Prix, another record. "
520TORQUES said:
5pen said:
520TORQUES said:
I have fond memories of this. I saw some potato spec video footage from the shakedown of the car prior to it's official first test run and saw how brilliant it looked. I popped £150 on a bet with coral, £50 on Jenson, £50 on Rubens and £50 on the team to win the championship.
As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
Reminds me of this thread from 2008As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The odds mentioned in this thread were as high as 100-1! I recommend that the OP place a spread bet “buy” on Button’s points. Wished I’d followed my own advice. I seem to recall the spread was something like 7-9 - he finished on 95 and having won 6 of the first 7 races I’m guessing the “sell” on the spread was quite a bit higher than 95 at that point.
Looks like i got 25-1 odds on my bet. I remember the crazy odds being offered, but that was before it was certain a car would even make it to the first event.
From memory the odds started dropping quickly after the shakedown as quite a few of the lads on the team started placing bets immediately after the first run. I got in shortly after.
I managed to find the potato video i watched on my computer, it was at the small Silverstone south circuit.
stuart100 said:
There's no way that baseball cap goes well with that suit. Especially on a near 60 year old man.
A trailer for a documentary about one of the best F1 seasons, ever, with an all-star cast and lots of great BTS footage / revelations - and the one thing that compels you to comment is... the presenter's hat 
520TORQUES said:
I have fond memories of this. I saw some potato spec video footage from the shakedown of the car prior to it's official first test run and saw how brilliant it looked. I popped £150 on a bet with coral, £50 on Jenson, £50 on Rubens and £50 on the team to win the championship.
As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
Love that!!As the year progressed coral kept emailing me offers to cash out. I held my nerve. I won £2500 which paid for a holiday of a lifetime in New Zealand. Only bet i had ever placed with a bookmaker.
A business pal of mine was working there in the transition and through the 2009 season
He said Honda were spending millions to squeeze half a Nm here and there out of it and treating it like a scientific research project
They bodged up the first car to make the Mercedes engine fit and went to HWA (I think, ETA maybe it was HPE looking at this thread) to Dyno it. The first readout came out pretty much 20Nm up across the board on the Honda unit so the Brawn Powertrain guy turned to the Mercedes tech and said ‘Eh, I think this dyno cell is a bit out of calibration’
He replied ‘Nah looks about bang on to me’
The initial simulations showed 1.5s a lap just for the engine.
He reckoned half the team put down bets they were going to win the championship that day
He said Honda were spending millions to squeeze half a Nm here and there out of it and treating it like a scientific research project
They bodged up the first car to make the Mercedes engine fit and went to HWA (I think, ETA maybe it was HPE looking at this thread) to Dyno it. The first readout came out pretty much 20Nm up across the board on the Honda unit so the Brawn Powertrain guy turned to the Mercedes tech and said ‘Eh, I think this dyno cell is a bit out of calibration’
He replied ‘Nah looks about bang on to me’
The initial simulations showed 1.5s a lap just for the engine.
He reckoned half the team put down bets they were going to win the championship that day
Edited by The Wookie on Saturday 4th November 08:14
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