RE: 'AU 1' made famous by Goldfinger goes on sale

RE: 'AU 1' made famous by Goldfinger goes on sale

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Julian Scott

2,621 posts

26 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Imagine getting cross about the price of a number plate. What a world we live in.
One quick look at the attendees of any socialist/left-wing/Labour Party event will show that 'cross' is the default position. The only happiness in their lives appears to be the free lunches.

pingu393

7,985 posts

207 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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All the vanity plates sold on the DVLA website, or at one of their auctions, are just "tax".

Every numberplate has been "taxed" at birth and every time it's transferred with the £80 transfer fee.

ds666

2,668 posts

181 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Julian Scott said:
tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Written by the man in the tax dodging Tesla.... laugh
I'm sure he will be paying the appropriate tax for that car . No law that says you have to pay as much tax as possible ( unless TR3A gets to write them I suppose ) .

Numeric

1,409 posts

153 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Sooo... the first thing to remember is that poverty depending on its measure can be a ratio of wealth. So a certain % of a population would be regarded as being below poverty depending on where that is set. So Liechtenstein has people living below 'a' poverty line, but it's a very relative poverty.

Second, are those you are counting people on benefits? So in income terms someone on benefits will likely be below the poverty line, but do they have their accommodation paid, their bills paid etc. and their earnings are therefore entirely disposable. I'm a long time away from such things now and it may be different today, but tobacco, subscription television and gambling used to see this group as very productive customer sets.

As for a tax the rich mandate? I point out that when Thatcher slashed income tax the tax take increased, it became cheaper to pay the tax then hide the wealth, while we must also not forget that people with higher incomes already pay more tax in everything from direct to indirect taxes, its the lower incomes that don't pay much.

I certainly don't have an answer, the use of a universal income was touted as being one but that seems to have many issues in reality.



srob

11,652 posts

240 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Jon_S_Rally said:
Imagine getting cross about the price of a number plate. What a world we live in.
I don't get cross at the price, but I don't like plates being taken off old vehicles.

I bought a 1931 motorbike a couple of years ago. It has its original number plate which meant that I've been able to trace the full history of the bike back to the supplying dealer new. And I'm now in touch with a bloke who's dad used it daily in the 1950s. None of that would be possible had the plate been robbed off it.

Personally I'd like to see plates locked to vehicles for life and written off it the vehicle is scrapped.


Donbot

3,993 posts

129 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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I do wonder what would happen if in the future reg plates were no longer needed and what people would do with them.

It does seem like a crazy amount of money to spend on having some letters and numbers on your car. Each to their own and all that though.

Though I guess it's mostly financial speculation.

Fermit

13,134 posts

102 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Nish Gnackers said:
"AU" was a Nottinghamshire registration suffix back in the day ... along with TO VO TV AL NN and RR
Along with RA RB RC

Julian Scott

2,621 posts

26 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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ds666 said:
Julian Scott said:
tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Written by the man in the tax dodging Tesla.... laugh
I'm sure he will be paying the appropriate tax for that car . No law that says you have to pay as much tax as possible ( unless TR3A gets to write them I suppose ) .
You miss the point. Man who drives a car that avoids many taxes criticises the activities of others for not being liable for more tax.

Julian Scott

2,621 posts

26 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Numeric said:
As for a tax the rich mandate? I point out that when Thatcher slashed income tax the tax take increased, it became cheaper to pay the tax then hide the wealth, while we must also not forget that people with higher incomes already pay more tax in everything from direct to indirect taxes, its the lower incomes that don't pay much.
Laffer Curve in action.

Julian Scott

2,621 posts

26 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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srob said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
Imagine getting cross about the price of a number plate. What a world we live in.
I don't get cross at the price, but I don't like plates being taken off old vehicles.

I bought a 1931 motorbike a couple of years ago. It has its original number plate which meant that I've been able to trace the full history of the bike back to the supplying dealer new. And I'm now in touch with a bloke who's dad used it daily in the 1950s. None of that would be possible had the plate been robbed off it.

Personally I'd like to see plates locked to vehicles for life and written off it the vehicle is scrapped.
I'm not sure any plates are 'robbed' off vehicles.

Most come from cars that don't exist anymore. If they do, it is because the rightful and legal owner chose to do so.

Not sure why you would want old plates to be written off, other than adopting a grumpy, miserable 'love-child of Scrooge and Victor Meldrew' position.

tr3a

Original Poster:

511 posts

229 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Terminator X said:
Perhaps if you'd worked harder at school ...
I did quite well at school, thank you very much. So well in fact that I could afford to fill my garage with nice classic cars and never had to finance a new car in my life.

Perhaps if you'd done better at life, you wouldn't immediately presume those who advocate for a lower Gini coefficient are all lazy scroungers.

Motormouth88

260 posts

62 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Terminator X said:
tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Perhaps if you'd worked harder at school ...

TX.
Typical comment from the goon who signs off every single comment with TX. Like he’s saying something worth saying

pingu393

7,985 posts

207 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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also, anyone who has a number in their forum name should pay a tax.

Oh wait, better make that anyone who doesn't have a number in their forum name.

DannyB2007

187 posts

202 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Id imagine the AU vodka people will be wanting this!

vindaloo79

965 posts

82 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Mark-C said:
I do love a Number Plate thread party
That’s numberwang! smile

Harry H

3,429 posts

158 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Numeric said:
tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Sooo... the first thing to remember is that poverty depending on its measure can be a ratio of wealth. So a certain % of a population would be regarded as being below poverty depending on where that is set. So Liechtenstein has people living below 'a' poverty line, but it's a very relative poverty.

Second, are those you are counting people on benefits? So in income terms someone on benefits will likely be below the poverty line, but do they have their accommodation paid, their bills paid etc. and their earnings are therefore entirely disposable. I'm a long time away from such things now and it may be different today, but tobacco, subscription television and gambling used to see this group as very productive customer sets.

As for a tax the rich mandate? I point out that when Thatcher slashed income tax the tax take increased, it became cheaper to pay the tax then hide the wealth, while we must also not forget that people with higher incomes already pay more tax in everything from direct to indirect taxes, its the lower incomes that don't pay much.

I certainly don't have an answer, the use of a universal income was touted as being one but that seems to have many issues in reality.
An exceptionally well worded response.

Until I read it I was just going to say - "bks" as that's what the 1 in 5 statistic is.

smilo996

2,827 posts

172 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Terminator X said:
tr3a said:
Here's an idea.

In a country where 1in 5 people are at or below the poverty line, how about taxing ego car plates? If you can spend money on buying a plate just to stroke your ego, you can afford to contribute to mitigating some of your country's problems. The fewer positions your ego plate has, the more tax you pay. Just two positions? 10x road tax. Three positions: 5x road tax, and so on.

It could be an ego stroking thing in itself: have a short registration, show people you're really doing well, not just for yourself, but also for the country.
Perhaps if you'd worked harder at school ...

TX.
Like the Eton Mess you mean🙄

C70R

17,596 posts

106 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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And we've gone from an article about a number plate to ranting about rich people and "the Left" in around a page.

PH really is the Facebook comments section of internet forums these days. laugh

smilo996

2,827 posts

172 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Sir Les?
As for taxing plates, deference or self interest always find the exception. Charge an ego tax on plates sold on instead of a slap.
Even better encourage a society where massive ego's, wafeur thin self confidence and massive entitlement are seen as a bit pathetic which and of course they are.

Hairymonster

1,447 posts

107 months

Tuesday 21st November 2023
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Julian Scott said:
One quick look at the attendees of any socialist/left-wing/Labour Party event will show that 'cross' is the default position. The only happiness in their lives appears to be the free lunches.
Aha! How I've missed your posts!

Most people at the events you refer to aren't cross, it's more about optimism: wanting to make a difference to the benefit of the country, rather than the narrow-minded, incompetent, self-serving corruption forced upon us during 13 years of Tory misrule, supported by the sorts of people that regard the government's performance as acceptable and appropriate. Voting Tory is for those who have an essential part of their soul missing.