RE: JLR reaffirms 'commitment to vehicle security'
Discussion
damonbill said:
I know this wont fix all thefts and wont impact the insurance but 1) keeping your keys in a faraday box and 2) getting an separate immobiliser is 1) literally one click on amazon and £20 easy and 2) £500 a year and go and get one fitted maybe a bit less easy BUT will reduce the chance of your car being nicked alot.
So basically adding £500 to your motoring costs for the year, every year, until you sell the car? You'd be miffed if your insurance went up £500 for the year. I'm not even certain having a car stolen would increase your premium that much. A product that's marketed as premium should have a heck of a lot better security than something more mundane. If you know how a product is stolen then surely you've taken a massive step in the direction of solving the theft?
How long is it before AI is introduced into car security, I wonder. Facial recognition for when you're driving around or something.
rbozza said:
Keyless entry is the issue
No it's not. Keyless relay is just a way for the thieves to easily access the car if they are trying to exploit the OBD. You're right though, keyless can be switched off, but that doesn't stop the actual problem...
The OBD port and CANBUS are totally open/exposed meaning the car can be started without the need to jam/copy/relay any signal/key, at all. Even scarier is the devices the thieves use to plug in and start/unlock are openly sold on the internet, and it takes a thief only seconds to start the car.
JJJ. said:
normalbloke said:
Shoddy optics for a shoddy product. They deserve every bit of bad PR they get, and ‘adverts’ like this to try to make them look shiny again should be seen for what it really is.
Nail on head.Edited to add that: we fitted a Ghost to the last one, that at least meant it was outside in the morning ( although ransacked twice with no alarm sounding )
Edited by Tin Hat on Wednesday 22 November 17:49
bluesierra said:
Funkstar De Luxe said:
I'd suggest something like a uniquely cut piece of small metal that has to be physically inserted into the vehicle before allowing ignition.
I'm a bit weird though.
I'm a bit weird though.
It's good to see a manufacturer finally addressing this publicly. The ability for someone to sit outside your house for a while during the day, copy the key fob signal, and then return later to steal the car is an absolute joke; in Canadian cities Honda/ Acura, Toyota/ Lexus and Nissan/ Infiniti SUVs are essentially stolen to order, straight off the drive. It's been going on for years, the manufacturers are clearly aware of it - police are, but they don't do anything about it - but have refused so far to actually fix it, whether by requiring the key to be inserted into the ignition or more complicated methods.
k. What self respecting criminal willing to drive a stolen to order car wants a Honda or Nissan. Not sure if I’m joking or not.
Although a drug dealer I met once, told me all his delivery guys drove Nissan micra or jazz’zzz for mpg, reliability and blend in.
Friend of mine had his RR stolen and recovered twice, second time he found it as his patient called his clinic and said she found it a bid odd his car had been parked down her quiet road for 2 days.
It was missing the entire interior when it was recovered though and couldn't insure it for less than £12kish so had no choice but to pay off all the months remaining on the lease and hand it back.
It was missing the entire interior when it was recovered though and couldn't insure it for less than £12kish so had no choice but to pay off all the months remaining on the lease and hand it back.
Edited by honda_exige on Wednesday 22 November 21:44
AKilb said:
I got an after market ‘ghost’ immobiliser which was recommended by JLR. Does anyone know how efrective they are? Thanks
I haven’t got one myself but Mk7 Golf R owners on the VWROC forum only have positive things to say about Ghost. And of course that was a regular car on the thieves shopping list. LunarOne said:
Nish Gnackers said:
My last 4 brand new Range Rovers ... ( 1 RR Vogue D300 SE, 1 RR P530 Autobiography, 1 RR Sport D350 Autobiography and 1 RR Evoque D200SE have never been stolen and have never broken down.
Sorry folks
But did you ever get them out of their packaging?Sorry folks
I don't have much sympathy for Land Rover when it comes to their cars security; but when you see online that the thieves are nicking the latest Range Rovers by peeling a nice hole in the boot lid so they can presumably access some wiring, you do have to wonder just what they can do to stop it if the thieves are going to go to those lengths.....
Maybe they should fit every car with a version of a Ghost immobilizer....
Maybe they should fit every car with a version of a Ghost immobilizer....
119 said:
It’s a gesture and nothing more but in all honesty, it doesn’t matter how secure it is, if they want it, they will take it by whatever means necessary.
Your latter claim is frankly nonsense.A measly steering lock is enough to deter thieves in many cases. They want a simple, low risk theft and there are plenty of other vulnerable cars to nick if yours is even slightly more risky.
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