RE: All-new Ineos Fusilier revealed as electric 4x4
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Looks quite good to me, good luck to them.
The RHD model footwell issue with the Grenadier was a big thing that put me off it. Always some issue with a car but I guess type of error that is less common with established car companies.
Ratcliffes profile and INEOS is now also completely linked to the company and I suspect many people will have a view about owners, rightly or wrongly.
Tesla have lost plot (the cybertruck could have been something functional and good). Maybe a gap for this given how slow others are being.
JLR might be closer to a fully EV Defender by 2026/27.
The RHD model footwell issue with the Grenadier was a big thing that put me off it. Always some issue with a car but I guess type of error that is less common with established car companies.
Ratcliffes profile and INEOS is now also completely linked to the company and I suspect many people will have a view about owners, rightly or wrongly.
Tesla have lost plot (the cybertruck could have been something functional and good). Maybe a gap for this given how slow others are being.
JLR might be closer to a fully EV Defender by 2026/27.
Roger Irrelevant said:
That looks good actually. I always thought the Grenadier looked a bit weird and not in a good way - it's an uncanny valley Defender basically - but this is it's own car and all the better for it. I like the idea of a REx version too. Will watch with interest.
Yup. This one is smaller and I wonder if that's a result of an imported skateboard from another manufacturer rather than reinventing the wheel. REx will be interesting but I don't think they get classed as EVs when it comes to various taxes?
DonkeyApple said:
The renders look quite good.
It's already an immensely heavy vehicle and loaded up with batteries this is surely going to break the scales and when it comes to punching through the air, towing anything, heading off into the blue yonder it's simply not going to work.
It's purely an urban shopping car. Which is fine but it's likely to be quite an expensive way to migrate from shop to shop and entering the domain where it has no USP other than 'warrior'?
Its not a Grenadier EV though so any weight assumptions are pure guessworkIt's already an immensely heavy vehicle and loaded up with batteries this is surely going to break the scales and when it comes to punching through the air, towing anything, heading off into the blue yonder it's simply not going to work.
It's purely an urban shopping car. Which is fine but it's likely to be quite an expensive way to migrate from shop to shop and entering the domain where it has no USP other than 'warrior'?
Andy665 said:
Its not a Grenadier EV though so any weight assumptions are pure guesswork
Yup. Realised that shortly after. It still can't work as a rugged 4x4 as getting good enough range then makes it too heavy, sticking a generator inside loses load space or makes the front heavier still. Very much a suburban runabout. Knowing Jimmy's progressive views on matters maybe it's aimed at the little housewife?orbit123 said:
Looks quite good to me, good luck to them.
The RHD model footwell issue with the Grenadier was a big thing that put me off it. Always some issue with a car but I guess type of error that is less common with established car companies.
Ratcliffes profile and INEOS is now also completely linked to the company and I suspect many people will have a view about owners, rightly or wrongly.
Tesla have lost plot (the cybertruck could have been something functional and good). Maybe a gap for this given how slow others are being.
JLR might be closer to a fully EV Defender by 2026/27.
Looking at the size of it I suspect an EV Jimny would be a competitor.The RHD model footwell issue with the Grenadier was a big thing that put me off it. Always some issue with a car but I guess type of error that is less common with established car companies.
Ratcliffes profile and INEOS is now also completely linked to the company and I suspect many people will have a view about owners, rightly or wrongly.
Tesla have lost plot (the cybertruck could have been something functional and good). Maybe a gap for this given how slow others are being.
JLR might be closer to a fully EV Defender by 2026/27.
NGK210 said:
Soviet chic is the new thang, right?
Hmm, thought not.
Thought wrong then didn't you...Hmm, thought not.
Everyone knows the only colour to buy a G Wagen is Agave Green - even MB know this...
And the original Lada Niva in a similar hue is still one of the coolest cars you could own
Edited by Andy83n on Friday 23 February 17:16
ducnick said:
The first ineos car was a loss leader to get a factory built and some market experience. This is the big one…. Build a car that looks like the ever fashionable TikTok G wagon. Sell it at a small profit, sit back, knowledgeable that it is powered by one of the waste products of your factories…. Let it gain momentum building more refuelling station for the ever growing numbers of hydrogen fueled vehicles. Hey Presto, your waste gas problem solved in one Master stroke. If only they could create a car powered by the CO2 they produce.
Except this won't be built at Ineos's plant in France but in Austria at Magna's contract manufacturing plant - alongside the G-wagen! Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff