RE: Mini JCW GP (F56) | PH Used Buying Guide
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s m said:
I’m of the same opinion Lee re the steering - don’t feel short-changed on feel with the F56 Cooper S compared to an R50 Cooper on Imolas with 175s …..or a few 80s performance cars
Aye it's fine on my JCW as well, I'm actually pretty surprised how good it is coming from an MX5.mart4856 said:
Probably make more sense financially to buy a regular JCW and remap and upgrade tastefully.
I think so too, and in fact that's what I'm going to do with mine, a remap liberates up to 300 ponies without changing anything else. I also reckon the standard JCW probably drives better than the GP on our crap roads too.s m said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Xenoous said:
Not the same I know, but we had a 2017 Mini Cooper. That had the worst steering feel of any car I’ve driven. Our X3 isn’t too dissimilar either. The takeaway is BMW ePAS systems suck… much better in this? Hopefully. Seems like a mighty fun car if so.
I'm not a big fan of the EPAS in the 2018 F82 M4 either, it isn't too bad when you turn in, but it doesn't tell you much about what is going on at the rearend of the car though for me. I don't remember the EPAS in the 2017 F56 Cooper S irritating me that much at all though in comparison. Edited by pw_ninja on Sunday 10th March 18:50
TameRacingDriver said:
s m said:
I’m of the same opinion Lee re the steering - don’t feel short-changed on feel with the F56 Cooper S compared to an R50 Cooper on Imolas with 175s …..or a few 80s performance cars
Aye it's fine on my JCW as well, I'm actually pretty surprised how good it is coming from an MX5.mart4856 said:
Probably make more sense financially to buy a regular JCW and remap and upgrade tastefully.
I think so too, and in fact that's what I'm going to do with mine, a remap liberates up to 300 ponies without changing anything else. I also reckon the standard JCW probably drives better than the GP on our crap roads too.I’d heard good things about the Mini GP/GP2 when they were realised, so was excited when the opportunity arose to try one of these latest-gen variants on-track. I don’t know if it was because I also got to drive an FK8 Civic and a Megane RS300 on the same day, but the Mini was disappointing; it felt at odds with itself, a chassis that was clearly ‘up for it’ teamed with steering that was somewhat vague, and an automatic gearbox that just felt plain odd. It might be alright as an ownership proposition so you could breed familiarity and learn how the car wants to be driven, but honestly for me it was the worst of the 3 cars to drive on-track, and would have been the last car I’d have picked to drive home in (despite the auto box). If I was going to get a daft-looking hot hatchback, it would be the Civic for me, but then I’ve never been overwhelmed by the BMW-era Minis so probably not who the car is designed for.
s m said:
TameRacingDriver said:
s m said:
I’m of the same opinion Lee re the steering - don’t feel short-changed on feel with the F56 Cooper S compared to an R50 Cooper on Imolas with 175s …..or a few 80s performance cars
Aye it's fine on my JCW as well, I'm actually pretty surprised how good it is coming from an MX5.mart4856 said:
Probably make more sense financially to buy a regular JCW and remap and upgrade tastefully.
I think so too, and in fact that's what I'm going to do with mine, a remap liberates up to 300 ponies without changing anything else. I also reckon the standard JCW probably drives better than the GP on our crap roads too.bigmowley said:
“Flat out, the first 850cc 34hp ADO15 Mini of 1959 did 72mph. Whether anyone actually ever achieved that speed in one is another matter. If they did, it would have been an ear-busting, nerve-shattering experience in a minimally soundproofed 640kg car screaming along on scooter-sized wheels.”
That is some extremely poor writing by someone with minimal experience of old cars and a real lack of life experience.
My first car was an 850 Mini, GKL675D, and I can assure you I drove it everywhere absolutely flat out, foot to the floor and it was great. It would show 90MPH on the long downhill stretch of the M6 past Lancaster university.
Nerve shattering? Really? I suggest you get a day job that involves sitting in an office and not going outside much, it will suit your nervous disposition.
Full snowflake.
That is some extremely poor writing by someone with minimal experience of old cars and a real lack of life experience.
My first car was an 850 Mini, GKL675D, and I can assure you I drove it everywhere absolutely flat out, foot to the floor and it was great. It would show 90MPH on the long downhill stretch of the M6 past Lancaster university.
Nerve shattering? Really? I suggest you get a day job that involves sitting in an office and not going outside much, it will suit your nervous disposition.
Full snowflake.
bigmowley said:
“Flat out, the first 850cc 34hp ADO15 Mini of 1959 did 72mph. Whether anyone actually ever achieved that speed in one is another matter. If they did, it would have been an ear-busting, nerve-shattering experience in a minimally soundproofed 640kg car screaming along on scooter-sized wheels.”
That is some extremely poor writing by someone with minimal experience of old cars and a real lack of life experience.
My first car was an 850 Mini, GKL675D, and I can assure you I drove it everywhere absolutely flat out, foot to the floor and it was great. It would show 90MPH on the long downhill stretch of the M6 past Lancaster university.
Nerve shattering? Really? I suggest you get a day job that involves sitting in an office and not going outside much, it will suit your nervous disposition.
Full snowflake.
Did you also have a Yamaha 50 Fizzy that did over 100mph by any chance?That is some extremely poor writing by someone with minimal experience of old cars and a real lack of life experience.
My first car was an 850 Mini, GKL675D, and I can assure you I drove it everywhere absolutely flat out, foot to the floor and it was great. It would show 90MPH on the long downhill stretch of the M6 past Lancaster university.
Nerve shattering? Really? I suggest you get a day job that involves sitting in an office and not going outside much, it will suit your nervous disposition.
Full snowflake.
FS1E DX actually 
only good for about 50MPH though, sadly.Article said:
If you were using it as a daily vehicle you probably wouldn’t be the flavour of the month in an even mildly intolerant neighbourhood when you fired it up of a morning.
Funnily enough my (mini-mad) neighbour has one of these - although his daily is some sort of other Cooper, and that is even louder. I don't mind as they sound quite nice. Far worse is the guy over the road who either can't or won't replace the glow plugs on his Golf 5 diesel. The awful, grinding cranking noise seemingly lasts forever and is always embellished with an ugly flare of clattery revs as he finally gets the tractor running. This grating din is amplified by bouncing around the walls of his large brick car port, and only has to travel about 20-30 feet to my bedroom window.
It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't leave AT 4AM EVERY DAY.
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