RE: Dacia Spring confirmed as £15k EV in UK

RE: Dacia Spring confirmed as £15k EV in UK

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DaveLikesCars

3 posts

4 months

Tuesday 12th March
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This looks great for its intended use. I’ve got a little Suzuki Alto as a cheap runabout for the Mrs but I often use it over my Octavia Vrs as it’s so much fun using most of the performance all the time. The power figure for the spring sounds low but it will probably feel quite punchy as it’ll be full torque from zero rpm whereas my little Suzuki needs about 4000rpm to deliver 20nm less torque. And it’s got a normal key and normal handbrake! Might have to arrange a test drive. scratchchin

Baldchap

7,765 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th March
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45bhp is the same as a 1.0 Fiesta had in 1984.

Yay for progress.

CraigyMc

16,501 posts

238 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Baldchap said:
45bhp is the same as a 1.0 Fiesta had in 1984.

Yay for progress.
But this is heavier.

kmpowell

2,962 posts

230 months

Tuesday 12th March
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CraigyMc said:
0-60 in 19s will make uphill slip roads a bit more stressful than they probably need to be.
Just me that read the above, then heard in their head…

“Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair." Not my words, Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine.

getmecoat

Every day a journey

1,665 posts

40 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Got a feeling that this will be a massive seller for Dacia.

Perfect for around towns and shorter journies.

Baldchap

7,765 posts

94 months

Tuesday 12th March
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CraigyMc said:
Baldchap said:
45bhp is the same as a 1.0 Fiesta had in 1984.

Yay for progress.
But this is heavier.
Don't worry, it was absolutely dripping with sarcasm.

This Dacia is going to be terrible, I can feel it. laugh

TheOctaneAddict

779 posts

49 months

Tuesday 12th March
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At that price I can see it doing very well.

trevalvole

1,065 posts

35 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Andy83n said:
Its probably the perfect car for 90% of all journeys.

0-60 is less important than 0-20 or 0-30 and looks a more viable option than a Citroen Ami.
This, and this too:

DaveLikesCars said:
The power figure for the spring sounds low but it will probably feel quite punchy as it’ll be full torque from zero rpm whereas my little Suzuki needs about 4000rpm to deliver 20nm less torque.

pb8g09

2,414 posts

71 months

Tuesday 12th March
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kmpowell said:
Just me that read the above, then heard in their head…

“Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair." Not my words, Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine.

getmecoat
hehe not just you!

"It's the look that says, I'm in a Dacia and nothing's going to stop me"

Equus

16,980 posts

103 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Baldchap said:
45bhp is the same as a 1.0 Fiesta had in 1984.

Yay for progress.
It's 6bhp less than the Hillman Imp Sport had - with an engine 125cc smaller than the Fester's - in 1966.

Yay for progress, indeed!

Konan

1,855 posts

148 months

Tuesday 12th March
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We used to have a Yaris that never really got used beyond what this car is perfectly capable of. E.G. Hopping in and going less than 30 miles. Nothing else was really required of it.

I've never ever considered a new car before but at that price, i think that might've actually been in with a shout if we'd decided to replace it.

So, given i've no real interest in small cars, EVs, Dacia or spending money - the fact the thought even presented itself makes me think this might find quite a large market. For what it's worth, the 500e is pretty cheap (i think, i've not checked) and I'd not give that a 2nd thought.

kmpowell said:
“Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair." Not my words, Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine.
Not only is that just a 'fitting' line for the character, he also knows that Top Gear magazine would have written that very line (or did) and that they'd have written it knowing that National Express coaches are all driven by repressed racing drivers and will be doing 70 in the middle lane, making them a hard pass for some vehicles. I do love that guy's writing.

J4CKO

41,773 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th March
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kmpowell said:
CraigyMc said:
0-60 in 19s will make uphill slip roads a bit more stressful than they probably need to be.
Just me that read the above, then heard in their head…

“Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out affair." Not my words, Carol, the words of Top Gear magazine.

getmecoat
Yep, me too, amazing how that series has so many quotes still in general use !

45 bhp, nope, that is just being too puritanical, 65 would do for its intended usage and make it much less frustrating, difficult to compare with a 45 bhp Fiesta, as you have that much higher instant torque and no gears, plus its heavier. May find it feels more spritely around town than you expect but still 45 bhp is never going to be quite enough.

Just need to use it for its intended purpose, town based trips where power isnt a factor and shorter journeys, either you dont do the longer trips or you have another car.

I would use one, tend to use a bicycle for shorter trips but if I get an F Type R, would rather not wake up 5 litres and 8 cylinders then park amongst those who dont care about bodywork to go and get a takeaway or drop one of the wifes many Asos returns off.

In a few years when they are 5k could just keep one on hand for that kind of trip, leave it on charge (if you have a driveway) suppose an Aygo would do the same but they will die out eventually, if someone learns how to kill them, being as they are a 1.0 cockroach with tyres.


PistonTim

521 posts

141 months

Tuesday 12th March
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The Rotrex Kid said:
Well done Renault, I really thought they were going to end up £20k+

Dacia putting the knife into renault in the UK again. These will outsell the Renault 5 2:1 I’d say.
They are completely different cars and target markets.


Deep Thought

35,946 posts

199 months

Tuesday 12th March
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I think even in the article they reference that the 45BHP variant is likely just to be to make the headline price point.

I'd have thought the 65BHP variant will be the go to starting point - with a more reasonable 0-60 time of 13.7s.

ChocolateFrog

25,851 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Djtemeka said:
This will be fine for old people who only drive to the shops etc. Trundling at 20 everywhere is perfect for them and the low price means that they may actually buy it.
Yet my first car had almost exactly the same power output and went to the south of France, the Alps, all over the UK perfectly fine, it weighed about the same too.

It's only recently that 65hp has become akin to walking.

Antj

1,052 posts

202 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Well done Dacia. They could easily have stuck it up at 20k and taken a £5k profit, but they chose not to. i'm very impressed and reaffirms my love of the brand.

to release at that price is so good, these will be so useful for so many people, as town cars, station cars. I really think my parnts should be looking at one of these, my mum for example rarely goes further than 5 miles, but she does go out most days in the car. Something safe, new and cheap to run makes a lot of sense for them. Then theres the ease of driving an electric car.

ChocolateFrog

25,851 posts

175 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Deep Thought said:
I think even in the article they reference that the 45BHP variant is likely just to be to make the headline price point.

I'd have thought the 65BHP variant will be the go to starting point - with a more reasonable 0-60 time of 13.7s.
Yep.

The same with the essential spec Duster. (Virtually) the only people that talk about them are the ones that say stuff like they're perfect for most people or all the car you ever need but never have any intention of buying any Dacia themselves.

In reality most people buy the higher spec ones because they're still great value and things like heated seats and Apple Carplay are more than worth the few hundred extra.

I say that in full knowledge that atleast a couple of PHers have Essential spec Dusters.

S600BSB

5,128 posts

108 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Any more info on when the new Duster is coming?

Smint

1,760 posts

37 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Ideal for general pottering about, the higher powered version especially more than adequate, torque will be instant from take off.

My truck runs just over 10bhp per ton when fully freighted, its usually cars holding me up on national single carriagway A roads, most drivers haven't a clue how to get the best from their ICE engines or the faintest idea about maintaining normal progress, this Dacia could prove sprightly in use.

Well done Dacia, you've chucked a big cat in amongst the overpriced pigeons.

andy43

9,790 posts

256 months

Tuesday 12th March
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Equus said:
Baldchap said:
45bhp is the same as a 1.0 Fiesta had in 1984.

Yay for progress.
It's 6bhp less than the Hillman Imp Sport had - with an engine 125cc smaller than the Fester's - in 1966.

Yay for progress, indeed!
The initial twist from standstill with the EV instant torque will beat most ICE stuff from the lights if you need it to, even with 45 bhp.
Imp/Chamois - now that’s a design someone needs to plagiarise! Supercool.