RE: Clio Renaultsport 200 (Cup Chassis)

[V8mate]

SwineFluPirate said:

V8mate said:

My local Renault dealer is offering the Clio 200 Cup for £12,995 - nice discount.

Really? That is very good!

Do you mind me asking which dealer?

Lookers - both Colchester and Chelmsford dealerships.

[SwineFluPirate]

V8mate said:

SwineFluPirate said:

V8mate said:

My local Renault dealer is offering the Clio 200 Cup for £12,995 - nice discount.

Really? That is very good!

Do you mind me asking which dealer?

Lookers - both Colchester and Chelmsford dealerships.

Thanks.

Do you know if either have a 200 demo?

[V8mate]

SwineFluPirate said:

V8mate said:

SwineFluPirate said:

V8mate said:

My local Renault dealer is offering the Clio 200 Cup for £12,995 - nice discount.

Really? That is very good!

Do you mind me asking which dealer?

Lookers - both Colchester and Chelmsford dealerships.

Thanks.

Do you know if either have a 200 demo?

I just saw the ad in this morning's paper.

A telephone call will, I'm sure, resolve all your questions. I am in a position to reveal, however, that they have "a choice of colours". Pre-registered '09-plate cars they need to get rid of by September, I daresay.

[mattbvw]

SwineFluPirate said:

Hopefully we will be seeing a Trophy, or Gordini version soon, so i'll hold out to see what Renaultsport can muster.

There had been talk in the weekly mags a few months back of a possible Gordini version but it was mentioned that this wouldn't have mechanical differences (i.e. it's more of a different trim version). Renault have taken a lot of stick (and rightly so) for bringing out the uprated "Cup" chassis pack a few years down the line displeasing those who opted to buy first so it's nice to see that it's available from launch now. Trophy version - just remember that the Clio 182 Trophy, and the Megane R26.R for that matter, only came along as end-of-life swansongs so I wouldn't hold your breath for one of those anytime soon.

[Buffalo Girls]

KrissJ said:

Yes, those Recaros are brilliant to sit in! They're also used in the Corsa VXR, although unlike the lovely leather clad ones in the Focus and Corsa, the Clio 200 -and 197 before it- gets the poverty spec version.

The Corsa seats have a different, softer base. The Clio base has higher, solid sides to it

[CarlT]

sandys said:

Chris-R said:

£850 is right, but isn't that 'nearly' a grand? Either way, it's a lot for a pair of seats, but when you see/sit in them you can see where the money goes - they've got built in side airbags, height adjustment and a hard-shell style squab that I don't think you get on the Focus.

almost 2k for optional sport seats in a Abarth Punto, no air bags or adjustment so £850 is not bad.

Similar seats were a £1500 option on the MK5 Golf GTI !!

[Sivraj]

Well done for holding out to 600 miles running in,
I had 500 miles run in on my R6 and have to admit to not sticking strictly to it.

[vlad]

200 brake and torsion bar rear suspension the french now how to take money thats for sure----------crap rear end -----seat leon diesel same power -----with re-map------same performance but more torque more mpg and 5 point multilink rear susp from vw / audi wot you think --------and it will be better build quality for sure !!

[CarlT]

vlad said:

200 brake and torsion bar rear suspension the french now how to take money thats for sure----------crap rear end -----seat leon diesel same power -----with re-map------same performance but more torque more mpg and 5 point multilink rear susp from vw / audi wot you think --------and it will be better build quality for sure !!

I dont recall the motoring press saying that a remapped SEAT Leon is one of the best hot hatches ever made

[mattbvw]

vlad said:

wot you think --------and it will be better build quality for sure !!

Not necessarily at all. The latest ones are genuinely very, very good. I should know, I have had several of them! (and with no problems either). I'm not trying to say they're perfect but they are amazing things to drive and, probably, just as good as anything else out there in all other respects.

[Krakatoa]

CarlT said:

vlad said:

200 brake and torsion bar rear suspension the french now how to take money thats for sure----------crap rear end -----seat leon diesel same power -----with re-map------same performance but more torque more mpg and 5 point multilink rear susp from vw / audi wot you think --------and it will be better build quality for sure !!

I dont recall the motoring press saying that a remapped SEAT Leon is one of the best hot hatches ever made

I think he's on acid. Would explain the almost hypnotic use of dashes in his sentances as well!

[pbirkett]

thiscocks said:

3500rpm at 70? what are you compaining about, that's fine! (I have to hack a daily motorway drive in my 106 Rallye)

I don't see what's wrong with it either. I've seen this a lot lately, people complaining because a hot hatch does 3500 rpm at 70. Its a hot hatch: What do you expect?

My current and last cars both did 4000 rpm at 70 and they had no soundproofing either. People shouldn't be so soft!

[Chris-R]

pbirkett said:

thiscocks said:

3500rpm at 70? what are you compaining about, that's fine! (I have to hack a daily motorway drive in my 106 Rallye)

I don't see what's wrong with it either. I've seen this a lot lately, people complaining because a hot hatch does 3500 rpm at 70. Its a hot hatch: What do you expect?

My current and last cars both did 4000 rpm at 70 and they had no soundproofing either. People shouldn't be so soft!

Not complaining about the gearing - just about having to stick to a 3500rpm max on the motorway for 600 miles!

[davebem]

CarlT said:

vlad said:

200 brake and torsion bar rear suspension the french now how to take money thats for sure----------crap rear end -----seat leon diesel same power -----with re-map------same performance but more torque more mpg and 5 point multilink rear susp from vw / audi wot you think --------and it will be better build quality for sure !!

I dont recall the motoring press saying that a remapped SEAT Leon is one of the best hot hatches ever made

Some of the best handling fwd cars have torsion beam rear suspension. The whole fun of these cars are you can throw it round any corner and putting a smile on your face. The leon although is a nice car is about 2-3k more expensive (plus the remap!!).

[walton1231]

Is that the best the french can come up with for a 2.0 n/a. My integra dc2 is a 14 yr old design with a 1.8l n/a engine that would leave one of these round a track. Also ive just had three dynos done in the last 3 months and was getting around the 200hp mark(13 years old 95,000mls on the clock) uses no oil and doesnt miss a beat, i would really love to see one of these modern renaults stand up to the test of time. Also ive been told that there are a lot of the clio 197's only putting out 165hp when dynoed. The dc2s get around 36 mpg, lsd, short range box, better chassis, better build, better looks and for an absolutely sound one you can look at paying around 5 grand.

Save thousands and buy an old honda.

HANG.ON.NOT.DONE.ACCELERATING!

[Crusoe]

You do realize that the run in instructions are not run the first 600 miles at a constant 3500rpm then thrash it to the limiter for mile 601 you are usually told not to drive at constant RPM for longer periods, and extend the rev range and percentage of throttle used slowly over the next few hundred miles.

[C.A.R.]

I'd rather a new Clio than a clapped-out old Integra to be fair. The equipment spec is better, everything is new, nothing has rusted or faded. Yes, Integra's do the above.

You'd probably pay more to insure an old Honda too. I think you're also being a little bit previous about suggesting that you'd leave one for dead on a circuit too. I'd put my money on the Clio personally! Especially after seeing that video of it chasing an RS around a small circuit...

[pbirkett]

C.A.R. said:

I'd rather a new Clio than a clapped-out old Integra to be fair. The equipment spec is better, everything is new, nothing has rusted or faded. Yes, Integra's do the above.

You'd probably pay more to insure an old Honda too. I think you're also being a little bit previous about suggesting that you'd leave one for dead on a circuit too. I'd put my money on the Clio personally! Especially after seeing that video of it chasing an RS around a small circuit...

Obviously never driven an Integra then.

[Chris-R]

Crusoe said:

You do realize that the run in instructions are not run the first 600 miles at a constant 3500rpm then thrash it to the limiter for mile 601 you are usually told not to drive at constant RPM for longer periods, and extend the rev range and percentage of throttle used slowly over the next few hundred miles.

Yes, alright - artistic licence!

[walton1231]

not one bit of fade or rust on mine or quite a few others i know of. Anyway my point is that the design of the dc2 is knockin on 14 yrs now and there is nothing the clio beats it at, and aswell as that it big bro the r26r with a nice big turbo and plastic windows isnt really doing much either.

R26R- 189bhp/ton
0-60 6.0
top speed 147

dc2R 187 bhp/ton
0-60 6.2
top speed 145

Anyway here is the updated nurburgring test times see for yourself mate. http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?...

the r26r only deserves one r if that. the clios a girls car and to top it all off there French and unreliable.