If I was Secretary Of State for Transport, I'd...

If I was Secretary Of State for Transport, I'd...

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heebeegeetee

28,922 posts

250 months

Saturday 17th October 2009
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HOGEPH said:
Any other suggestions?
No. Using the roads is a perfectly safe activity for a sensible, normal person to participate in so there's no point in throwing money at road safety. If saving lives is needed there are countless other areas where it could do more good.

Justin-W

1,080 posts

226 months

Saturday 17th October 2009
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a) I'ld get rid of all 50cc scooters having a min of 125cc and you having to be 18.
b) You'd remain a learner driver until you covered a course for obtaining lane positioning, overtaking and other awareness factors also encorperating a skid pan. This will be no earlier then 6months after passing original tests.
c) I'ld do away with signs not all of them just feel the roads are too cluttered with them.
d) Get rid of speed camera's exception to city centres, outside schools / colleges.
e) Use alternatives to speed humps as the most guilty is the mums with people carriers and 4x4's.

Edited by Justin-W on Saturday 17th October 23:03

gamefreaks

1,981 posts

189 months

Saturday 17th October 2009
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TPO/Legal Minimum insurance included with fuel duty. Solves the problem of being hit by uninsured drivers.

Get rid of road tax altogether. Why are we paying for the same thing twice?

Ditch FPN's. Points/Fines/Bans dished out by a court, not a justice-by-numbers tarrif.

Raise motorway/DC limits. De-restrict some sections.

Centre road policy about getting people from A-B quickly rather than C02 bullst, tax-raising or frustrating drivers.

kiteless

11,768 posts

206 months

Saturday 17th October 2009
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Dr Jekyll said:
Create an offence of 'driving while thick'.
That'll mean the roads being populated by 50,000 PH'ers and nothing more.

Love it.


The Lukas

2,773 posts

196 months

Saturday 17th October 2009
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Would it not be a good idea to make ALL road users have some appropriate insurance cover? I mean ALL:

Horses
Cyclists
Pedestrians

Why?

Without insurance, when these people get hit by a car with insurance, it makes it much easier to put the blame on the driver (though it may not have been his fault) than go through a much harder, money and time consuming ordeal in paying for the damage without use of the drivers car insurance.

Am I right?

109 Bob

3,762 posts

220 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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HOGEPH said:
Allow overtaking on both sides on the motorway, reducing congestion.

Allow a left turn on a red light, if the road was clear.

Replace many junction traffic lights with roundabouts, saving on electricity and waiting times.

Replace the road tax with a levy on fuel, so no one could avoid it.

Make the speed limit on the motorways 90, but

Reduce the limit in built up areas to 20.

Allow the Police to ram stolen cars off the road to avoid lengthly chases, even if it resulted in the death of the "joy rider".

Make it compulsary for pubs to offer free soft drinks to designated drivers, so there might be an incentive to offer to drive on a night out.

Any other suggestions?
Definitely not.

Yes.

Yes.

rolleyes This has already been done & continues to be done, but with the minor error of failing to scrap the ved.

Not necessary.

No.

Yes, depending on circumstances.

Hell No. That would mean the rest of us would have to pay with increased prices & beer's expensive enough as it is.

"Any other suggestions?"

Yes, Compulsory motorway tuition for new drivers & raise the standard of the existing test so people get taught how to drive in the bloody first place.

Negative Creep

25,028 posts

229 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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ALL road humps removed. Now.

A tv campaign to remind cyclists that red lights and one way street apply to them as well

Only the centre brake light working = 3 penalty points for failing to maintain a vehicle

The only cars allowed to have a 'Sport' trim level are cars that are actually sporty

J500ANT

3,101 posts

241 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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  • Keep lorries & towing vehicles to the inside lane on all motorways / dual carriageways from 6am til 8pm. AND ENFORCE IT!
  • Make everyone have a driving retest every 10yrs, and for oldies (75+ maybe) every 3.
  • Make all supermarkets have bigger parking spaces so you can open your doors without hitting other cars.
  • Turn "minor" traffic lights off at night.
  • Get the Portishead - Bristol railway line working.
  • Make it legal for smart cars to go on the motorway (cos my Aunt says its illegal wink )

109 Bob

3,762 posts

220 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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leggly said:
Turn traffic lights to flashing amber between 00:00 and 0500ish.
I think that's actually a very good idea, not all of them but a lot of them could flash amber all night with no safety issues what so ever.

tifosi1976

74 posts

208 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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put rohypnol in Gordon Brown's cup o' tea then introduce a large, randy polar bear to his private quarters. Let the polar bear have his fun then I'd slit that lying, one eyed (1/2 eyed) 'prudent' monkey's throat with a blunt rusty razor blade.

And then watch the c**t bleed to death like he's bled this country to death.

Flippin' Kipper

638 posts

181 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Introduce a driving awareness lesson in childrens GCSE year - the last one before the dropouts quit. This lesson would focus on the various aspects of how to be a good driver, although not the technical aspects.

When people turn 17 they would have to have lessons for at least a year, including lectures that try and dispell the belief held by many new drivers that they are god's gife to the road.

Maybe some skidpan lessons, and motorway lessons could be introducted towards the end of the year.


The Black Flash

13,735 posts

200 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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The Lukas said:
Would it not be a good idea to make ALL road users have some appropriate insurance cover? I mean ALL:

Horses
Cyclists
Pedestrians

Why?

Without insurance, when these people get hit by a car with insurance, it makes it much easier to put the blame on the driver (though it may not have been his fault) than go through a much harder, money and time consuming ordeal in paying for the damage without use of the drivers car insurance.

Am I right?
No, it's a stupid idea. Insurance to walk to the corner shop? err, no thanks. We need less forms to fill in, not more.

Now running a state 3rd party insurance scheme, funded by a penny on petrol or whatever, would at a stroke remove all of the problems caused by uninsured drivers and the associated enforcement costs, both money and time. With an associated reduction in other taxes to offset it, of course.

Oilchange

8,525 posts

262 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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have a higher speed limit on motorways up to 95 ish, also depending on conditions, like if wet, 65mph, if dry 95mph etc
have minimum speed limits depending on the lane on motorways, like they do on the continent.

lane 1 lane 2 lane3

70 90 110

something like this although these numbers are in km/h.


in the UK:

lane 1 lane 2 lane 3

65 75 85

in mph.

R1_NUR

1,088 posts

252 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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HOGEPH said:
Allow overtaking on both sides on the motorway, reducing congestion. That would be my first action because re-education is not going to work. As a general principle I still think people should aim to be on the left when not overtaking. But if the idiots have no comprehension undertake! Yee hah.

Allow a left turn on a red light, if the road was clear. Works in the states and most Canadian provinces (to the right!)

Replace many junction traffic lights with roundabouts, saving on electricity and waiting times. Halalulya!

Replace the road tax with a levy on fuel, so no one could avoid it. Yep - top plan.

Make the speed limit on the motorways 90 but 70 in the wet

Make it compulsary for pubs to offer free alcoholic drinks to the designated driver next time he is in the pub!
Great ideas most of them get my vote.

Add:

Ban all traffic lights on roundabouts.
Switch all traffic lights to amber at night or quiet times and treat the junction as a give way.

R1_NUR

1,088 posts

252 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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You make some great points but your response to the OP's suggestion here maybe true in the short term but people will quickly get used to it and in the long term traffic flow will be much improved and more importantly frustration levels will be lower!

CommanderJameson said:
HOGEPH said:
Allow overtaking on both sides on the motorway, reducing congestion.
I wouldn't; it'd cause more crashes.

R1_NUR

1,088 posts

252 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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You make some great points but your response to the OP's suggestion here maybe true in the short term but people will quickly get used to it and in the long term traffic flow will be much improved and more importantly frustration levels will be lower!

CommanderJameson said:
HOGEPH said:
Allow overtaking on both sides on the motorway, reducing congestion.
I wouldn't; it'd cause more crashes.

R1_NUR

1,088 posts

252 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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You make some great points but your response to the OP's suggestion here maybe true in the short term but people will quickly get used to it and in the long term traffic flow will be much improved and more importantly frustration levels will be lower!

CommanderJameson said:
HOGEPH said:
Allow overtaking on both sides on the motorway, reducing congestion.
I wouldn't; it'd cause more crashes.

Robert060379

15,754 posts

185 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Make everyone take a driving test and full eye examination every five years.
Anyone staying in this country more than three months would have to take an British drivers test and pass.
Everyone has to ride a 125cc bike for two years before taking their car test (for better hazard awareness).
Continental HGV drivers will also have to have British licences or hand loads over the drivers who do at the port.
Autobahn the Motorways apart from during busy periods when a temperary speed limit of 70mph is enforced.
Only one level of disqualification. Lifetime ban. To stop re-offenders.
People caught driving without insurance/licence/Tax/M.O.T be put to work reparing pot holes.
I could do this for ages..............

srebbe64

13,021 posts

239 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Okay, driving test should be conducted by the driver of the car behind talking on a mobile phone to the car in front. As well as instructions the assessor should be talking trivia and the assessed person should be able to have a sensible conversation, driving with one hand, and driving flawlessly. Probably this would rid us of the ludicrously bad drivers that somehow manage to pass the driving test.

heebeegeetee

28,922 posts

250 months

Sunday 18th October 2009
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Hmmm. It's a good job we don't have governance by the people, isn't it?

The roads would never bloody move if we did.