Had my definition of fast rewritten today......

[NorthernBoy]

It might have felt faster, but in straight line acceleration, up to 100mph, it's a fair way behind big bikes.

It's probably down to your being a passenger, as opposed to a rider. When someone else is in control, that always makes it seem faster.

I don't have the figures in front of me, but I'd guesstimate that the Ferrari is only about as fast as something like my GS 1200 0-100mph or 1/4 mile, which is a fair way behind a litter sports bike.

Edited to add, it's halfway between the biking world's equivalent of a Range Rover (my bike) and tehe GSXR in the 1/4 mile. Very fast, but still not super bike fast in that particular measure.

Edited by NorthernBoy on Saturday 28th August 21:47

[RobM77]

Toyless said:

Is that a small driver, or is the car much bigger than its isolated proportions would have us believe?

[Toyless]

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

Is that a small driver, or is the car much bigger than its isolated proportions would have us believe?

Its not small, I would say the driver is a good 6 footer.

Im 6-4 and no lightweight but was comfortable in the pax seat.

[*Al*]

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

Toyless although i respect your answer, i still think in a drag a litre sportsbike will be quicker? As someone else said being a passenger can feel alot quicker than it really is.

[RobM77]

Toyless said:

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

Is that a small driver, or is the car much bigger than its isolated proportions would have us believe?

Its not small, I would say the driver is a good 6 footer.

Im 6-4 and no lightweight but was comfortable in the pax seat.

I guess it just looks small by proportion - shame.

A very rare opportunity to have a ride in one though

[Toyless]

*Al* said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

Toyless although i respect your answer, i still think in a drag a litre sportsbike will be quicker? As someone else said being a passenger can feel alot quicker than it really is.

You are both probably correct, I think its more the feeling of the absolute power that I dont feel on a bike.

Theres probably a significant amount of feel down to being in the pax seat for sure, but I still wouldnt evcer say this car is slow.

Its "for sure" rewired my own speed sensors.

[V88Dicky]

He needs to be careful with that plate. The 'tribal' design makes it virtually unreadable.
Lovely car though!

[NorthernBoy]

Toyless said:

Theres probably a significant amount of feel down to being in the pax seat for sure, but I still wouldnt evcer say this car is slow.

No, very far from slow. Anything that comes close to a big bike in a straight line is very fast indeed.

[Toyless]

• Al* - totally off topic, I just looks at your profile, do you happen to know Jon C, the drummer, works at the same place as you ?

[carinaman]

Thanks for that pic.

What's going on with the rear wing? It's looks like there's some comet tail effect with the door handle, two creases that flare as they go backwards through the rear wing.

Interesting.

[RobM77]

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

[Japveesix]

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

He only said that it "felt way quicker" not that it actually definitively was quicker. The feeling can be attributed to many things such as being a passenger, the noise of the V8 screaming, the ease and smoothness withwhich is accelerates and so on

Ps. Also people expect big power sports bikes (especially drag racing ones) to go like st off a shovel. If you're not used to it I imagine it feels slightly odd something so large, classy and plush inside going so quickly?

Edited by Japveesix on Saturday 28th August 22:27

[ClintonB]

*Al* said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

Toyless although i respect your answer, i still think in a drag a litre sportsbike will be quicker? As someone else said being a passenger can feel alot quicker than it really is.

In Car this month there's a lift from one of the bike mags of a comparison between a Veyron and a BMW S1000 RR. Apparently they're pretty much even up to @ 140mph, after which the Veyron shows it's stuff.
I'd imagine that the 458 is a level down from the Bug and a good level down beyond that 140 mark.

[Toyless]

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

9.5/140 ish. Cant remember the 60 foot times.

Besides,its not just short term acceleration of a lightweight thing like a bike, this was much more sledgehammer like and really didnt feel like running out of puff.

To put a bit of perspective into this, Im fairly used to going quick, but this felt so effortless and so ongoing, it was only road conditions that slowed it down.

[RobM77]

Toyless said:

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

9.5/140 ish. Cant remember the 60 foot times.

Besides,its not just short term acceleration of a lightweight thing like a bike, this was much more sledgehammer like and really didnt feel like running out of puff.

To put a bit of perspective into this, Im fairly used to going quick, but this felt so effortless and so ongoing, it was only road conditions that slowed it down.

I guess that's the effects of torque, rather than revs maybe? Driving an S2000 is a similar experience - you know it's a brisk car because you can see the speedo moving and it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, but it just doesn't feel it at all.

[Urban Sports]

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

9.5/140 ish. Cant remember the 60 foot times.

Besides,its not just short term acceleration of a lightweight thing like a bike, this was much more sledgehammer like and really didnt feel like running out of puff.

To put a bit of perspective into this, Im fairly used to going quick, but this felt so effortless and so ongoing, it was only road conditions that slowed it down.

I guess that's the effects of torque, rather than revs maybe? Driving an S2000 is a similar experience - you know it's a brisk car because you can see the speedo moving and it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, but it just doesn't feel it at all.

Really????

[Hell27]

CarbonM5 said:

Yeah,these do go like spunk off a squirrels back.Wicked cars!

So fast then, but seriously unclean.

On a different note, OP?

I do not move in these fabulous circles that allow you to go in such amazing machinery.
However, In my lowly world, I have been on the Rita queen of speed ride at Alton Towers, and for a little bit of time, it accelerates so quick, I feel quite sick due to the force. Did the acceleration compare to that?

Edited by Hell27 on Saturday 28th August 23:29

[alock]

Urban Sports said:

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

9.5/140 ish. Cant remember the 60 foot times.

Besides,its not just short term acceleration of a lightweight thing like a bike, this was much more sledgehammer like and really didnt feel like running out of puff.

To put a bit of perspective into this, Im fairly used to going quick, but this felt so effortless and so ongoing, it was only road conditions that slowed it down.

I guess that's the effects of torque, rather than revs maybe? Driving an S2000 is a similar experience - you know it's a brisk car because you can see the speedo moving and it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, but it just doesn't feel it at all.

Really????

The official time is 6.2 (I think) but a few magazines have experimented with more brutal launch techniques and recorded numbers in the mid 5's. The best I've read about is a 5.5.

[alock]

Urban Sports said:

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

9.5/140 ish. Cant remember the 60 foot times.

Besides,its not just short term acceleration of a lightweight thing like a bike, this was much more sledgehammer like and really didnt feel like running out of puff.

To put a bit of perspective into this, Im fairly used to going quick, but this felt so effortless and so ongoing, it was only road conditions that slowed it down.

I guess that's the effects of torque, rather than revs maybe? Driving an S2000 is a similar experience - you know it's a brisk car because you can see the speedo moving and it does 0-60 in 5.4 seconds, but it just doesn't feel it at all.

Really????

The official time is 6.2 (I think) but a few magazines have experimented with more brutal launch techniques and recorded numbers in the mid 5's. The best I've read about is a 5.5.

[Liquid Knight]

RobM77 said:

Toyless said:

*Al* said:

I've never had the opportunity to ride in any Fez, but do own a 1000cc sportsbikes and have a good idea about fast acceleration.

Al

I used to drag race a 1216 gsxr with nitrous, and this thing felt way quicker, believe me.

What quarter mile times was your bike doing? Surely it's quicker than the 458? The standard GXSR 1100 was measured by Autocar as doing 0-100mph in 5.5 seconds.

My 7/11 turbo did low eights, fully fired and with the right gearing 200+mph but the overall sensation of a supercar does feel faster even though in reality it isn't. 200Kgs of bike and driver accelerating feels less theatrical than a ton of car punting along at nearly the same rate. I had a go in a Zonda and it is the only reason I buy a Lottery ticket.


Good to see some 458s that aren't on fire.

Edited by Liquid Knight on Sunday 29th August 09:44