RE: Mopar Fiat 500 Set For Detroit
Discussion
jbi said:
say what you like about the yanks... but fiat needs to get this right, they are banking their future on the American market.
Yes, but it looks like they want to do it as an inside job by taking control of an established Yank brand, then applying euro standards of build quality and designGiven Fiat's fairly spectacular return from the brink, (weren't they losing 2 million Euro a day?), I'd say they have a pretty good chance. After all, they have halo brands that they can exploit and with the current climate of austerity, perhaps Yanks will finally realise that "small-block" doesn't mean something slightly under 5 litres
Edited by Nigel_O on Sunday 9th January 11:15
Is it me or have they taken those rear bumper lights from a Mini?
As an owner of a 500 and a Mopar 6.1 Hemi I think they should definitely keep the two apart.
I think in some states the 500 will sell well if only for it's cutesy retro styling, such as California etc. We were in NYC over Christmas and New Year and this was painted on the wall outside of our hotel and highly illuminated............................
Can't quite see it being a hit in and around NYC to be honest, even though the place is awash with hybrid type cars! (I did see a classic Range Rover and a NAS spec Defender there though which was pleasing!)
Stef
As an owner of a 500 and a Mopar 6.1 Hemi I think they should definitely keep the two apart.
I think in some states the 500 will sell well if only for it's cutesy retro styling, such as California etc. We were in NYC over Christmas and New Year and this was painted on the wall outside of our hotel and highly illuminated............................
Can't quite see it being a hit in and around NYC to be honest, even though the place is awash with hybrid type cars! (I did see a classic Range Rover and a NAS spec Defender there though which was pleasing!)
Stef
Wow!
You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
gixxer said:
Wow!
You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
That was a bit uncalled for You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
gixxer said:
Wow!
You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
Meeooww...who pi55ed on your chips. Sorry fries?You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
If you had half a brain you'd be dangerous. Is that you Dubya?
p.s. your post stinks of fail because you failed to mention BP.
Stefan SRT8 said:
Is it me or have they taken those rear bumper lights from a Mini?
As an owner of a 500 and a Mopar 6.1 Hemi I think they should definitely keep the two apart.
I think in some states the 500 will sell well if only for it's cutesy retro styling, such as California etc. We were in NYC over Christmas and New Year and this was painted on the wall outside of our hotel and highly illuminated............................
Can't quite see it being a hit in and around NYC to be honest, even though the place is awash with hybrid type cars! (I did see a classic Range Rover and a NAS spec Defender there though which was pleasing!)
Stef
interesting, i hope they do well, but i suspect chrysler will always be number 3 after ford and GM!As an owner of a 500 and a Mopar 6.1 Hemi I think they should definitely keep the two apart.
I think in some states the 500 will sell well if only for it's cutesy retro styling, such as California etc. We were in NYC over Christmas and New Year and this was painted on the wall outside of our hotel and highly illuminated............................
Can't quite see it being a hit in and around NYC to be honest, even though the place is awash with hybrid type cars! (I did see a classic Range Rover and a NAS spec Defender there though which was pleasing!)
Stef
BTW - on a light hearted note - there it is - just at the bottom of the picture - the haute cuisine vendors!
Edited by oilit on Sunday 9th January 19:30
American here, and it IS a bad idea.
The middle-America focus group went like this: "Which name do you recognize, Abarth or Mopar?"
Look for a new concept car do debut in Europe this spring, the Chrysler 300 Abarth.
...which might not be so bad...hmmm.
and Alpina, y'might want to tone it down a bit. You're sounding awfully troll-like.
The middle-America focus group went like this: "Which name do you recognize, Abarth or Mopar?"
Look for a new concept car do debut in Europe this spring, the Chrysler 300 Abarth.
...which might not be so bad...hmmm.
and Alpina, y'might want to tone it down a bit. You're sounding awfully troll-like.
crostonian said:
What a stupid idea! Any American who is tempted to buy a Fiat 500 will be buying it for it's retro heritage and Italian iconism, the sort of person who probably hates Mopar Chryslers. What's wrong with the Abarth and Ferrari editions? What next a Dodge Avenger Abarth with a double bubble roof?
Exactly.This is ludicrous, is it a joke?
I think it'll go down a storm, i lived in canada for a year and a half and know a few yanks, and theyre sick of what they have, they know we get a better deal. They hate that you cant buy people carriers with 2litre diesels and manual boxes, i had a canadian friend visit the uk and i borrowed my dads car, loved the current shape laguna, with its 45mpg, comfortable yet euro suspension, decent interior space and quality and 1.5litre diesel engine. They love the new fiesta, they hate that they dont get the good focus we get (though that changes this year)
The idiots on this thread (pistonheads really is one of the stupidest places on the planet sometimes) dont recognise that corolla/camry sized cars are the biggest sellers over their (aside from trucks, which is fair enough, because they actually need them,and i'd own one in a flash if i lived their - and god knows why we dont have suv style pickup trucks - f150 with that jag diesel v6, perfect for the uk - and my outdoors lifestyle, and really no bigger than a range rover).If our medieval cities were better laid out, im sure we'd all be using bigger cars.
I predict fiat will be as big as vw in the us in a few years, especially if they price well.
The idiots on this thread (pistonheads really is one of the stupidest places on the planet sometimes) dont recognise that corolla/camry sized cars are the biggest sellers over their (aside from trucks, which is fair enough, because they actually need them,and i'd own one in a flash if i lived their - and god knows why we dont have suv style pickup trucks - f150 with that jag diesel v6, perfect for the uk - and my outdoors lifestyle, and really no bigger than a range rover).If our medieval cities were better laid out, im sure we'd all be using bigger cars.
I predict fiat will be as big as vw in the us in a few years, especially if they price well.
king stupid as the people they are basing them on. The mopar is another addition of what will be many. I don't see why its even news to be honest.Wow, I was pissed at some of the "anti-American" posts, but then I saw gixxer's and realised why the rest of the world hates us so much. Shame, as the few "bad apples" spoil the whole bunch in the eyes of the world.
Anyway, I'm American and I've loved the new 500 since I heard of its launch in 2007. Say what you will about the American market, but I believe they'll sell by the boatload here. The American market is largely responsible for the success of the other "retro-inspired" compacts, the New Beetle and the new MINI. In addition, the runaway success of the Smart has proven the "Americans don't buy small cars" notion is a complete myth.
Moreover, most of the Americans I know are disappointed that we don't get all the amazing hot hatches and frugal diesels that you guys get.
As far as this concept, I like the way it looks, but any MoPar version should be about performance, not looks! They should've started with the Abarth EsseEsse as a base, instead.
Anyway, I'm American and I've loved the new 500 since I heard of its launch in 2007. Say what you will about the American market, but I believe they'll sell by the boatload here. The American market is largely responsible for the success of the other "retro-inspired" compacts, the New Beetle and the new MINI. In addition, the runaway success of the Smart has proven the "Americans don't buy small cars" notion is a complete myth.
Moreover, most of the Americans I know are disappointed that we don't get all the amazing hot hatches and frugal diesels that you guys get.
As far as this concept, I like the way it looks, but any MoPar version should be about performance, not looks! They should've started with the Abarth EsseEsse as a base, instead.
jbi said:
gixxer said:
Wow!
You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
That was a bit uncalled for You Eurotrash are really getting nasty toward Americans.
What brought that on?
Somebody keyed your Renault Clio?
Somebody beat you up in another pub fight?
Another Rolls Royce engine tried to knock an Airbus down with it's superior engineering?
Can't find a job?
Maybe when you guys get that (inferiority) chip off your shoulder, more Americans will give you some respect.
But right now, you don't deserve any and you certainly won't get any from me..
You're just annoying third world punks.
Cheers for now!
iva cosworth said:
How many americans can you fit in a FIAT 500 ?
this isnt a joke BTW
probably none ,the fat ********ers
this isnt a joke BTW
probably none ,the fat ********ers
Why people on this forum always get so hostile when there's news from either America or China? But not India... That really says a lot about this country.
As for the Mopar 500, if they can spend less money to increase just a little bit of its sales figure. Then, I would say good luck to them. I personally wouldn't buy one. But I'm no American...
As for the Mopar 500, if they can spend less money to increase just a little bit of its sales figure. Then, I would say good luck to them. I personally wouldn't buy one. But I'm no American...
MOPAR? More like mop and bucket.. that car is horrid..
The standard Fiat 500 is a nice litte girly car nothing more nothing less. even the Abarth is a fast little hatch but is more a marketing tool than a car..
This however is just crap.. sorry but it is, the term MOPAR should not be used in the same breath as a car like this..
The standard Fiat 500 is a nice litte girly car nothing more nothing less. even the Abarth is a fast little hatch but is more a marketing tool than a car..
This however is just crap.. sorry but it is, the term MOPAR should not be used in the same breath as a car like this..
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