Fog Lights!!!

[FamilyDub]

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[Flintstone]

Zad said:

Low mounted "fog" lights often give better illumination of where the road edge is in the area closer to the car, especially in areas where there are no kerb stones.

Sorry but this doesn't wash. It was offered as a defence in a previous version of this topic a couple of years ago and I've tried it since. There's nothing lit by front foglights (in normal visibilty) that I can't see with headlights.

[*Al*]

Flintstone said:

Zad said:

Low mounted "fog" lights often give better illumination of where the road edge is in the area closer to the car, especially in areas where there are no kerb stones.

Sorry but this doesn't wash. It was offered as a defence in a previous version of this topic a couple of years ago and I've tried it since. There's nothing lit by front foglights (in normal visibilty) that I can't see with headlights.

Wrong imo, fog lamps do scatter light to the sides.This has been the case in most if not all cars i've owned equipped with them.

[BlueProp]

*Al* said:

Flintstone said:

Zad said:

Low mounted "fog" lights often give better illumination of where the road edge is in the area closer to the car, especially in areas where there are no kerb stones.

Sorry but this doesn't wash. It was offered as a defence in a previous version of this topic a couple of years ago and I've tried it since. There's nothing lit by front foglights (in normal visibilty) that I can't see with headlights.

Wrong imo, fog lamps do scatter light to the sides.This has been the case in most if not all cars i've owned equipped with them.

If you're driving about 5mph.....in thick fog.

[colonel c]

Flintstone said:

Zad said:

Low mounted "fog" lights often give better illumination of where the road edge is in the area closer to the car, especially in areas where there are no kerb stones.

Sorry but this doesn't wash. It was offered as a defence in a previous version of this topic a couple of years ago and I've tried it since. There's nothing lit by front foglights (in normal visibilty) that I can't see with headlights.

It may depend on the model of the vehicle though. My previous Disce II had square head and fog lights. When the fogs were on there was no discernable difference to the sides of the road. My current Disco II is the face lift model with round fogs. They light up the sides of the road quite considerably.

Having said that one should be looking ahead and not at the side of the road just in front of the bonnet. By the time you see anything it will be too late.

[edo]

If you drive towards me with your fog lights on and it isnt foggy, expect full beam from me. If they got this all the time they'd soon stop doing it.

[*Al*]

edo said:

If you drive towards me with your fog lights on and it isnt foggy, expect full beam from me. If they got this all the time they'd soon stop doing it.

Although i agree that there isn't any need to use them, i think that blinding someone coming towards you with main beams is not the smartest thing to do!

[edo]

*Al* said:

edo said:

If you drive towards me with your fog lights on and it isnt foggy, expect full beam from me. If they got this all the time they'd soon stop doing it.

Although i agree that there isn't any need to use them, i think that blinding someone coming towards you with main beams is not the smartest thing to do!

Without sounding like a petulant child - they started it

[MonkeyBusiness]

My work journey involves a high up, always foggy, no kerb, road (side of Leeds/Bradford airport if you are interested).

I find putting my front fogs on vastly increases my view. I do however turn them off when I am at the end of the road.

Edited by MonkeyBusiness on Sunday 9th January 20:49

[Flintstone]

*Al* said:

Flintstone said:

Zad said:

Low mounted "fog" lights often give better illumination of where the road edge is in the area closer to the car, especially in areas where there are no kerb stones.

Sorry but this doesn't wash. It was offered as a defence in a previous version of this topic a couple of years ago and I've tried it since. There's nothing lit by front foglights (in normal visibilty) that I can't see with headlights.

Wrong imo, fog lamps do scatter light to the sides.This has been the case in most if not all cars i've owned equipped with them.

As BlueProp says, at low speed which equates to poor visibility. They reach 5-6 feet ahead which at normal speeds equates (in time) to naff all. Anything they lit that the normal headlights didn't (nothing in my opinion) would be under the wheels before it even registered let alone had time to react to.

I've been driving for a little over three decades and have needed foglights, front or rear, a couple of times.

[Gregory CooperS]

doogz said:

Gregory CooperS said:

Hello,

i am newbie on here,
I live in Essex and at the moment there seems to be a fashion going around that people are using their fog light with their headlights or using them as their side lights. I drive, Mini Cooper S, everyday to work and back and drive down same country lanes, so when driving down a dark road and then a fker driving down with all this headlights and fog lights on. Your retina feels like its burning.
And NO, it has not been foggy when this has happened.

Any one else come across this while driving? or just in Essex

Sure it's the foglights? A lot of MINI's have spotlights on the front grill, they're not fogs, and they come on with the dipped beam.

no because i have a mini cooper with 8 lights and my spot lights are controlled by another switch. A mini has (well mine has) as stock 3 separate sets of lights. Fog lights, side light and headlights. The fog lights on the mini are at the bottom of the bumper and when i turn the fog lights, i can only see another 3 yards extra of the road

[BonzoG]

The comments about fog lights helping to illuminate the road edge are quite funny. At normal speeds, in clear weather, why the hell are you concentrating on such a short distance in front of the car? It's easier to steer down a confined space at speed if you're looking further ahead - you don't need to see the road edge 2ft in front of you!

The only time you need the nearby road edge as a visual guide is when travelling very slowly - like you would in thick fog. Which is why they're called fog lights!

[DE15 CAT]

I find bigger problem (been going on since fog's were invented)rear fog lights following some retard for miles burning my retina's out, i normally flash mind you retards don/t understand so then if no traffic coming other way put my full beam on. Amount of morons you speak to who forgot or 'diddunt'realise.

[*Al*]

DE15 CAT said:

I find bigger problem (been going on since fog's were invented)rear fog lights following some retard for miles burning my retina's out, i normally flash mind you retards don/t understand so then if no traffic coming other way put my full beam on. Amount of morons you speak to who forgot or 'diddunt'realise.

Agreed, rear 'fog' lights that are misused are the most annoying!! As already said the fronts (to me) are not a problem.

[MonkeyBusiness]

BonzoG said:

The only time you need the nearby road edge as a visual guide is when travelling very slowly - like you would in thick fog. Which is why they're called fog lights!

Sorry disagree. Whilst they may be called fog lights, on dark, unlit, and mainly country roads, they are of most use.

[Wills2]

MonkeyBusiness said:

BonzoG said:

The only time you need the nearby road edge as a visual guide is when travelling very slowly - like you would in thick fog. Which is why they're called fog lights!

Sorry disagree. Whilst they may be called fog lights, on dark, unlit, and mainly country roads, they are of most use.

But shirley you should be looking as far up the road as possible, not down at the sides?

Ah I've just noticed you're an Audi driver.

Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 9th January 21:10

Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 9th January 21:11

[60]

Xenon/H.I.D lights are worse IMO and I mean the proper ones not just the ebay kits.

[terzo]

Front fog lights do give extra light for the driver. Not for a huge distance but when you're on lanes with bends every 50-100m the extra light does help - try it! For the people that say it lights up 6 foot in front of the car - what pray tell would be the point of them then?

Front fogs can be of use in rain, snow, fog/mist - rear fog lights are another matter and indeed a horrible thing to be behind if the weather does not merit them.

[Eagerbeaver]

Gregory CooperS said:

Eagerbeaver said:

It's the misuse of high intensity rear lights that gets my goat.

mine is when people don't use their handbrake when stopped and keep their foot on the brake(only when it's dark), but thats for another thread.

I was guilty of that when I had an auto but as you say - only in daylight never at night or in the rain

[Wills2]

terzo said:

Front fog lights do give extra light for the driver. Not for a huge distance but when you're on lanes with bends every 50-100m the extra light does help - try it! For the people that say it lights up 6 foot in front of the car - what pray tell would be the point of them then?

Front fogs can be of use in rain, snow, fog/mist - rear fog lights are another matter and indeed a horrible thing to be behind if the weather does not merit them.

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You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 226) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.

Edited by Wills2 on Sunday 9th January 21:38