Toyo Proxes T1-R Vs Falken FK-452
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Thanks for all the replies guys, I guess I'm leaning toward the Falkens at the moment, as the MR2 is a little on the heavy side in comparison.
Reviews here look pretty decent too
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http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Falken/FK452.htm
Reviews here look pretty decent too
:http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Falken/FK452.htm
Pints said:
OP, do keep us updated regarding your choice of tyre and your thoughts once you're running it.
Will do! I found www.tyre-shopper.co.uk the cheapest for mine. £360 for 4 x 205/45/17 fitted.
Malcster said:
Pints said:
OP, do keep us updated regarding your choice of tyre and your thoughts once you're running it.
Will do! I should have mentioned that I run 452s on my Golf and am quietly hoping you'll choose the T1s so that you can give me a review of those on the MR2 so that I can consider them for the MX5.
But don't let that swing your choice.
Got a set of Toyos on the front of my Fiesta ST. People are right in saying they are worse than awful in the snow.
Wet grip is better than the previous Pirrelli P-zero Neros'. Side wall maybe a little softer than I would have wanted but all in all a very good tyre. Nice and responsive and a good feel for the price. I think they do better on front wheel drives than rears. Most negative complaints come from rear wheel drivers. Perhaps that will answer your question?
Wet grip is better than the previous Pirrelli P-zero Neros'. Side wall maybe a little softer than I would have wanted but all in all a very good tyre. Nice and responsive and a good feel for the price. I think they do better on front wheel drives than rears. Most negative complaints come from rear wheel drivers. Perhaps that will answer your question?
looks as if toyo's are the Marmite tyre
I love them on my monster ,put the power down really well
better ,more direct than the F1's I used to use, steering wise ,which seems to point to a stiffer sidewall...????
great in the wet, 160 mph through puddles at bruntingthorpe with no probs....
good wear 16k on the front of a 500 hp fwd is not too shabby
but it all depends on the size and application
235/40 X 17 (XL)
I love them on my monster ,put the power down really well
better ,more direct than the F1's I used to use, steering wise ,which seems to point to a stiffer sidewall...????
great in the wet, 160 mph through puddles at bruntingthorpe with no probs....
good wear 16k on the front of a 500 hp fwd is not too shabby
but it all depends on the size and application
235/40 X 17 (XL)
I did a season's sprinting with an MR2 (non-turbo) on T1-Rs last year (shared car, so 2 people, 10 events). In the absence of anything better I'm probably going to get another set for this year. Nice and progressive on the limit. Not sure what all this 'soft sidewall' stuff is about -- we ended up running 30/35 psi which I think is standard and although we wore away most of the sidewall lettering everything was OK. Tried higher pressures to stiffen up the sidewalls and it just made them break away earlier.
I had an MR2 turbo for a few years and ran Kuhmo KU31's. Now run them on the Ferrari and the M3.
My mate runs 452's on his Tuscan and thinks they're also v good.
Others here run T1-Rs and rate them.
If someone posts up some empirical research they've undertaken, based on R&D budgets, tyre compound analysis, noise and wear rates then you can have an informed debate, otherwise you'll get the same reply if you pop down to your local boozer with about the same level accuracy. Pirelli, Bridgestone, Toyo, Falken and Kuhmo all make good and bad tyres and all sponsor various race series so have plenty of history and testing grounds. I've run Pirelli, Falken, Contis, Kuhmos and Bridgestone and there's very little to choose between them. Honestly.
If we're getting down to brass tacks, either of the tyres you mentioned will be more than adequate on the MR2. You're only going to notice a real difference if you go genuine budget (Nankang etc) or high end track tyre (R888 etc). On your car, I'd personally avoid anything with massive grip at the back end as the last thing you want is for the back to suddenly release. Opt for something with reasonable grip levels and progressive release (which both will probably have).
Of they two you mentioned, get the one that's on the cheapest deal and spend the balance on getting the suspension and geometry set up correctly.
My mate runs 452's on his Tuscan and thinks they're also v good.
Others here run T1-Rs and rate them.
If someone posts up some empirical research they've undertaken, based on R&D budgets, tyre compound analysis, noise and wear rates then you can have an informed debate, otherwise you'll get the same reply if you pop down to your local boozer with about the same level accuracy. Pirelli, Bridgestone, Toyo, Falken and Kuhmo all make good and bad tyres and all sponsor various race series so have plenty of history and testing grounds. I've run Pirelli, Falken, Contis, Kuhmos and Bridgestone and there's very little to choose between them. Honestly.
If we're getting down to brass tacks, either of the tyres you mentioned will be more than adequate on the MR2. You're only going to notice a real difference if you go genuine budget (Nankang etc) or high end track tyre (R888 etc). On your car, I'd personally avoid anything with massive grip at the back end as the last thing you want is for the back to suddenly release. Opt for something with reasonable grip levels and progressive release (which both will probably have).
Of they two you mentioned, get the one that's on the cheapest deal and spend the balance on getting the suspension and geometry set up correctly.
Just had both types on my Bora tdi, Falkens are good, both are good tyres but the Toyo's are alot better, and are v good in the wet, better wear characteristics also IMHO, but as said if there were a £10 price difference between the Flakens and the Toyos price I'd go for the better price, bit it would have to be about that much. I can get Toyo's for £70 at the moment, fitted and balanced.
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