RE: Ferrari 458 Vs McLaren 12C - The Verdict
Discussion
Heart = Ferrari
Head is saying that Mclaren have dived back into making cars with quite a technically advanced car.
If I had the money to buy just one though, and it was my first proper 'supercar'.... I would have to take the Ferrari.
I don't think the Mclaren is that dull in the looks department, like most commentators are saying. Fairly generic sport car styling, but not dull. I think the detailing will be excellent in the metal.
Head is saying that Mclaren have dived back into making cars with quite a technically advanced car.
If I had the money to buy just one though, and it was my first proper 'supercar'.... I would have to take the Ferrari.
I don't think the Mclaren is that dull in the looks department, like most commentators are saying. Fairly generic sport car styling, but not dull. I think the detailing will be excellent in the metal.
I actually prefer the styling of the Mclaren. The Ferrari's proportions are better but it looks like it's trying too hard in the details and the area around where the front lights meet the bonnet is awful. The Mclaren looks a bit bulkier but it's looks much more like it was designed for its function.
SO the McLaren is faster in a straight line and through the bends and the Ferrari shouldn't even try to do what the McLaren can...so well done McLaren. In terms of looks I can imagine someone saying they don't like either shape but to split opinion so greatly is a little odd to me. I guess a lot of people would have been delighted if the 12C had disappointed. Anyway two great cars, job done McLaren, and the rest is personal taste.
Henry Fiddleton said:
Heart says = Porsche GT2RS
Wallet would say = GT2
Both too lardy, and to technical for my liking.
Exactly.Wallet would say = GT2
Both too lardy, and to technical for my liking.
Neither really floats my boat.
Cars that are too effective at everything imo, appear boring.
Those GT2's though, they are just a bit interesting through their compromised focus...
Different cars though, for entirely different people. As we know, 90%+ of F458 buyers and probably McLaren buyers, will buy them for being seen in or ragging it around London (or other affluent capital city)
Dave
http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/mc...
And if you are seriously in the market, and you do then go for a proper drive in the 12C, you will be hooked. Instantly. And you’ll never look at the Ferrari 458 or Lamborghini Gallardo in the same light ever again
And if you are seriously in the market, and you do then go for a proper drive in the 12C, you will be hooked. Instantly. And you’ll never look at the Ferrari 458 or Lamborghini Gallardo in the same light ever again
Do we know anything about servicing costs etc. I'm sure theres a large number of Ferrari and Lambo customers rather bored that they get taken for a ride anytime their cars go into the dealers for routine work. If Mclaren can capitalise on lower maintanance costs and take a more Porsche approach to high mileage cars they could clean up.
The article is rather interesting, its like Sutcliffe was too scared to give the nod to Mclaren in case he upset Ferrari, again.
The article is rather interesting, its like Sutcliffe was too scared to give the nod to Mclaren in case he upset Ferrari, again.
To be honest, both cars looks leave me cold. Far too many gimmicky styling cues and no real classic lines.
Mclaren have made what appears to be a dynamically impressive car, but the looks are extremely generic... what a missed opportunity.
As for the Ferrari, the rear and side profile look ok, but the 'angry' headlights and bonnet creases look crap.
On a tangent now, but why do so many cars have angry faces? the F40 never did, and still looks amazing! Doubt the 458 will in twenty years...
Mclaren have made what appears to be a dynamically impressive car, but the looks are extremely generic... what a missed opportunity.
As for the Ferrari, the rear and side profile look ok, but the 'angry' headlights and bonnet creases look crap.
On a tangent now, but why do so many cars have angry faces? the F40 never did, and still looks amazing! Doubt the 458 will in twenty years...
Henry Fiddleton said:
Heart says = Porsche GT2RS
Wallet would say = GT2
Both too lardy, and to technical for my liking.
They're hardly more lardy than the GT2 - more or less equal. GT2 = 1440 at the kerb. GT2RS is just slightly better off at 1370 kg, but best to compare that to the 458 Scuderia or Challenge Stradale or whatever it'll be called when that arrives.Wallet would say = GT2
Both too lardy, and to technical for my liking.
kambites said:
I actually prefer the styling of the Mclaren. The Ferrari's proportions are better but it looks like it's trying too hard in the details and the area around where the front lights meet the bonnet is awful. The Mclaren looks a bit bulkier but it's looks much more like it was designed for its function.
Agree. The 458 has a lovely coke bottle shape but the front headlights look too bling, I am sure the LED's will make it age like the 348 side strakes or the Porsche 996 headlights. Also is it supposed to have such a big panel gap at the front of the bonnet? MSTRBKR said:
Why is the range of the McLaren less than the Ferrari if the McLaren has the bigger fuel tank and is more economical? 
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I think the Ferrari covers half the journey on the back of a recovery truck. This gives it a far superior range ;-).I wonder how long the rear brakes will last, if the car is driven hard, as the "torque vectoring system" works by braking the wheel with least traction (usuall the inside one). Not that the cost of suc consumables will be an issue to any prospective owners!!
Service interval / cost anyone?? My guess, 3000 miles / £3000
kambites said:
MSTRBKR said:
Why is the range of the McLaren less than the Ferrari if the McLaren has the bigger fuel tank and is more economical?
Looks like the Ferrari has the bigger tank to me. ETA: I have no idea how I got confused by that.
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