Why is the E46 compact so overlooked?

Why is the E46 compact so overlooked?

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Eggman

1,253 posts

213 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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davepoth said:
If I remember correctly there's something especially horrific about these - I think the rear suspension came from an E30?
The have the semi-trailing arm suspension instead of the z-axle, iirc because it didn't take up as much room under the floor. Unfortunately, it wasn't such a good design; my recollections of it in the E12 and E30 involve sudden and lurid oversteer that you had to be quick to catch.

MarkRSi

5,782 posts

220 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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gareth.e said:
MrLou said:
Because it's god-awful ugly?
Truth.
Yep. They certainly fixed that when they released the good looking 1-series...





oh, wait...

rallycross

12,878 posts

239 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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not sure about the rear suspension being an issue, my one drove very similar to other the e46 models i've had - 330 sport's.

grenpayne

1,989 posts

164 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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I read the same thing re the rear suspension from being from an E30 which apparently made them quite tail happy? No idea if it's true but if so then for £3k then why not!?

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

217 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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I tested a 325ti before buying my curretn car. Fun, RWD, great engine and had all the toys.

I backed away as primarily that one was a dog cosmetically and had some dubious history. Going from an E34 it was a bit jittery handling and not as quiet in terms of road and wind noise - so I went barking mad and bought an X-type 3.0 biggrin

I still like them though. Underrated by people who talk cobblers. The loks I will admit can be devisive but hey if you like it buy one!

steve1968

348 posts

262 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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I had a 325TI Sport E46 for 2 years and it was great , only sold it to get 993 and now got E46 M3 but would defo have another ,in fact if anyone wants to deal a sport compact for a M3 get in touch.

The blue one in the pic above it not a sport , the sports do look alot better .

MrLou

879 posts

223 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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My problem, apart from the looks as that's a personal thing, is that this car was a cynical exercise by BMW.

I can imagine the scene in Munich as sales of the Golf, Focus and similar started to take a real bite into sales of the 3er. They rushed this car to market without doing a proper job of making a proper car, for that reason alone I can dislike it, the fact that it's a munter (in my eyes) just makes it easier.

The 1 series on the other hand I have no particular problem with, it looks a bit like a shoe but who's perfect.

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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Eggman said:
he have the semi-trailing arm suspension instead of the z-axle, iirc because it didn't take up as much room under the floor. Unfortunately, it wasn't such a good design; my recollections of it in the E12 and E30 involve sudden and lurid oversteer that you had to be quick to catch.
Yes, indeed they do. even the 90hp carbed 316 will go really rather sideways without much provocation. So I'm told...;)

F1GTRUeno

6,380 posts

220 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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Surely you could swap an E46 front end onto it?

Or is everything completely different?

davepoth

29,395 posts

201 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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F1GTRUeno said:
Surely you could swap an E46 front end onto it?

Or is everything completely different?
I think it's more E36 based than E46 based, but I couldn't be sure.

T16OLE

2,946 posts

193 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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F1GTRUeno said:
Surely you could swap an E46 front end onto it?

Or is everything completely different?
Its been done, completely pointless though!

It will add no value and look odd and cost a packet

was8v

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1,950 posts

197 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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grenpayne said:
I read the same thing re the rear suspension from being from an E30 which apparently made them quite tail happy? No idea if it's true but if so then for £3k then why not!?
davepoth said:
I think it's more E36 based than E46 based, but I couldn't be sure.
NO NO NO!

The E36 Compact used E30 rear suspension. The E46 compact uses E46 rear suspension - in fact you can swap E46 M3 bits in there.

Well thanks everyone for confirming the only reason is that they are an ugly duckling compared with the E46 saloon/coupe.

It seems to me they are bit of a performance bargain. If they E46 saloon/coupe didn't appear first then I bet we would all love them wink


calibrax

4,788 posts

213 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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Simple. It's overlooked because people think they are Cat D writeoffs... they look they've been involved in a rear-end shunt...

StuB

6,695 posts

241 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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I had one, a 320td ES from 1 year old and did loads of miles in it, including a few track days. It was chipped which was a great move. Handled like a dream! Couldn't recommend one highly enough and definitely underrated.

m444ttb

3,160 posts

231 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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On my shirt list of cars for the end of this year. I'm not keen on the front end, but certain colours look better than others. Late spec rear lights can be swapped in and look a little better.

I do like the e36 compact too, however it is very much a cut price e36. The e46 is just a shortened e46 so far as I can tell.

Deluded

4,968 posts

193 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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Loved my E36 Compact



Never had any problems with the handling. So, its based on an E30? Nowt wrong with that. Was a very good handling car and the rear end never gave me any hassle!


DR10

1,849 posts

176 months

Saturday 12th March 2011
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I personally don't find them ugly. My father had a 320D Compact SE Auto from new back in '03 as seen here. He liked it too. 50k miles in 3 years, no problems.




Patrick Bateman

12,221 posts

176 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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anonymous said:
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In what way is it a semi-hatch? It's as practical as a hatch needs to be.

And having a regular 3 series as a starting platform is hardly going to be a bad thing...

Stu R

21,410 posts

217 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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They were ugly in their day. Since then the 1 series has been released, so now they just look dated, and not *quite* as ugly.


Patrick Bateman

12,221 posts

176 months

Sunday 13th March 2011
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anonymous said:
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Yeah I'd agree with you on the looks department although owning one does seem to make it look more acceptable.